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Is Jenni Murray right about transgender?

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suzied Mon 06-Mar-17 07:38:12

Jenni Murray has been criticised for writing in the Sunday Times that transgender women cannot be real women as they have not grown up with the experiences of being women. Basically a transgender woman is just that , transgender, and not a woman. I agree with her, I have sympathy for those with psychological issues about gender, but I don't think a man who has had an sex change operation = a woman.

Lynnieg Mon 06-Mar-17 22:56:33

Hi Jane, I meant articles that were critical of Mermaids. They are from various press sources.
I'm also concerned about the inclusion of trans athletes in women's sports. That really wouldn't be a level playing field.

janeainsworth Mon 06-Mar-17 22:53:04

I don't understand what you mean about blue links being biased, lynnieg. A blue link is just a link to a website and takes you there without having to go via google confused
www.mermaidsuk.org.uk
I presume this is the organisation you're referring to as it appears to be the official website.

Rigby46 Mon 06-Mar-17 22:47:34

Lucky - the people heavily involved in attacking JM are amongst others from the TA community. They are not about respect - they don't respect women- and they are heavily into self identification. Well frankly, I think that's crap and an insult to those who transition 'properly'. I just can't accept that a man can decide he's a woman, keep his penis, and invade women only spaces. You do know about Paris Green don't you?

Lynnieg Mon 06-Mar-17 22:40:26

Jud, Mermaids is a group that supports teen and preteens who feel they are wrongly gendered. There have been some controversies surrounding them especially involving children as young as 4.
I'm not a fan of blue links, they are generally biased so Google can help you there.
TERF stands for Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists or basically anyone who has doubts and questions about MtF transitioning.
That'll be us, you and me and others in this thread. It's used as a term of abuse. I wouldn't recommend Googling that tbh!
I would recommend, and I'm sure Rigby would too, looking at the Jenni Murray threads on Mumsnet at the moment.

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