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Anniebach Sun 18-Jun-17 10:10:32

Difficult to word this . No politics please

Have we become too touchy feely? Too American - I feel you pain .

Remembering the Diana hysteria, Charles was uncaring father and husband, queenie very lucky Balmoral wasn't stormed and she was given a public hanging .

'Your people need you' 'show us you care'

Charles Spencer the adulterer and like his father a bully to his wife. He was applauded for a sentimental speech, not forgetting he first blamed the press then switched to the windsors.

I didn't need queenie, who did?

The same is happening now.

Why the need for public display of emotions?

This is not to lay blame for Diana's death or what is happening now, just wondering if anyone thinks as I do, I don't need celebrities or politicians or royals to do a public display of - I feel you pain .

Hope we are spared another rewording of Candle In The Wind

Why do we need this? I really am puzzled

Chewbacca Sun 18-Jun-17 14:36:40

I never even noticed Lily Allen until it was pointed out to me. Perhaps we all see what we want to see"

Yes, I think that's probably correct.

Chewbacca Sun 18-Jun-17 14:34:17

No, I don't think so Annie .

Anniebach Sun 18-Jun-17 14:33:01

But still the question is - should the public demand a public display of emotions from people as happened to queenie

durhamjen Sun 18-Jun-17 14:31:18

Apart from Lily Allen, who else has used it as a photo opportunity? I have watched her on screen and thought she was just honestly saying what she thought.
Like I said, I must look at different things to you, as I never even noticed Lily Allen until it was pointed out to me.
Perhaps we all see what we want to see.

Chewbacca Sun 18-Jun-17 14:11:24

It's a fair point that the general public are possibly not aware of what slebs and z listers may be doing "behind the scenes", following their photo opportunity. But I have compare them against the likes of the artists and bands who came together for the recent Manchester Arena gig. No overtly obvious photo ops; no seeking to apportion blame to anyone - the sole aim and desire to was to contribute positively; bring happiness to those affected and raise some money for victims. There support was the polar opposite of Lily Allen, who, imo, did more harm than good in what was already a bad situation.

Anniebach Sun 18-Jun-17 13:56:37

It makes it obvious you cannot cope with a thread which isn't political and isn't argumentative so you bring both . Carry on.

durhamjen Sun 18-Jun-17 13:40:18

I find it difficult to separate my opinions from my emotions. Does that make me emotionally immature?
If so, I prefer to be like that than cold and uncaring.

Jane10 Sun 18-Jun-17 13:36:53

An opinion isn't an emotion!

durhamjen Sun 18-Jun-17 13:30:19

Sorry, Jane, hadn't realised I wasn't allowed to display my emotions on this thread.

Anniebach Sun 18-Jun-17 13:26:06

You missed all the Diana death coverage Jen? Try googling it yes?

Jane10 Sun 18-Jun-17 13:23:54

Get thee to the Argy Bargy cafe dj!

durhamjen Sun 18-Jun-17 13:17:43

Who says it's not a choice?
Who says the public demand it?

Anniebach Sun 18-Jun-17 13:12:24

And Diana stopped being huggy, kissy because she was miffed she lost her HRH , fact

Anniebach Sun 18-Jun-17 13:10:42

Queenie doesn't do politics Jen, didn't you know this, so it is not political no matter you must be champing at the but to make it so .

Anniebach Sun 18-Jun-17 13:09:05

yes Wilma, it should be a choice not a reaction to a demand

durhamjen Sun 18-Jun-17 13:06:47

I agree, Wilma. We do not know what celebrities do when out of the public eye.
Prince William is showing that he gets much of his feelings about people from his mother, who showed that she cared by touching people. Many people were scared of aids before she helped to dispell the fear.

Annie, you said no politics, please, but this is pure politics.

WilmaKnickersfit Sun 18-Jun-17 12:25:03

PS None of us know for certain why celebs turn up or speak out. Not do we know what action (if any) they might take out of the public eye. In most cases I would rather give them the benefit of the doubt.

WilmaKnickersfit Sun 18-Jun-17 12:17:34

I'm sorry, but I don't agree.

We need more compassion in our world, not less and a stiff upper lip should be a personal choice, not the desired response. And despite what we might think of celebs, they're just human beings like us with emotions.

There are many ways to show our emotions and no one way is better than another.

Chewbacca Sun 18-Jun-17 12:02:20

Tend to agree with you Anniebach. It grinds my gears when I see z lister slebs suddenly turning up at photo ops; usually with a tear in an eye and words of wisdom. Then they disappear into the background, having "raised their profile ", but with nary a backward glance to the human suffering or tragedy that they sought their photo opportunity in the first place. Whilst I'm not comfortable with demanding that anyone should attend any disaster/tragedy/public event; I have no doubt that when HM attends, it seems to be much welcomed and appreciated by the public. As you say, no hugging or faux tears of solidarity from her, just warmth, compassion and sympathy.

Anniebach Sun 18-Jun-17 11:42:01

No politician dare not express his/her sorrow before replying to the first question, the public would lynch them and this is why I ask , do we have the right to demand anyone should ?

Greta Sun 18-Jun-17 11:33:19

I am at a loss to understand why we worship celebrities. They have achieved a god-like status. I know some of them support good causes and donate to these. But I find the
whole celebrity culture has contributed to a lot of dumbing down. I also don’t like the “My thoughts are with the people...” that every interviewee now has to start his/her comments with. Their thoughts should always be with the neglected and vulnerable. Not just after a tragedy. ‘Tragedy’ is not quite the correct word. The fire was not an Act of God. It was an Act of Man.

Anniebach Sun 18-Jun-17 11:21:44

Alima, queenie was critcised much later by the press not by the village, Phillip came, Armstrong Jones came , queenie sent a message of condolence and said she would visit when the village was cleared , she didn't want to add to the Kayos - sorry can't spell that . She has visited several times over the years as promised.

It has been reported it was the only time she had been seen in public with tears in her eyes, she did, I have a photograph, it was when she looked across from the Cardiff road to the graves . But she did not grab villages and start hugging,nor have tears talking to families, dignity

Anniebach Sun 18-Jun-17 11:11:08

Jane , I am not alone , hugs and xxx. We don't even know if this huggy, kissy display is genuine and there is always a camera . If queenie starts giving hugs I will be off down the garden to eat worms, less nauseating

Alima Sun 18-Jun-17 11:10:08

I think in some way the Royals have had to jump on the band wagon, especially since Diana's death. They faced huge criticism over not returning to London soon enough, having flags half mast etc. It certainly did not mean they did not care, there were two young Princes who needed them. I recently read that the Queen was criticised for not visiting Aberfan soon enough after the disaster, is that true Annie? I really think we as a nation have been influenced by America in wearing our heart on our sleeve. I have never been a touchy feels sort of person but it certainly does not mean I don't care. I feel sorry for the way TM has been treated lately as just because she doesn't go round weeping and wailing doesn't mean she does not care. Hard to say if the celebs do the hugging genuinely or are after the photo shoot really.

merlotgran Sun 18-Jun-17 11:06:50

Out of all the royals, William is the one most recently to have seen some harrowing scenes. I think he was the right one to go with the Queen and I have no doubt that their visit was appreciated.

Give them a break, Annie.