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Anniebach Sun 18-Jun-17 10:10:32

Difficult to word this . No politics please

Have we become too touchy feely? Too American - I feel you pain .

Remembering the Diana hysteria, Charles was uncaring father and husband, queenie very lucky Balmoral wasn't stormed and she was given a public hanging .

'Your people need you' 'show us you care'

Charles Spencer the adulterer and like his father a bully to his wife. He was applauded for a sentimental speech, not forgetting he first blamed the press then switched to the windsors.

I didn't need queenie, who did?

The same is happening now.

Why the need for public display of emotions?

This is not to lay blame for Diana's death or what is happening now, just wondering if anyone thinks as I do, I don't need celebrities or politicians or royals to do a public display of - I feel you pain .

Hope we are spared another rewording of Candle In The Wind

Why do we need this? I really am puzzled

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 23-Jun-17 17:54:58

Sorry, I got distracted writing my last post and trisher posted the same link. blush

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 17:38:05

Thank you Devengirl

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 23-Jun-17 17:15:41

This article is about the subject of feeling another person's pain. British neuroscientists contribute.

Feeling someone else's pain

trisher Fri 23-Jun-17 17:01:02

Don't believe God Annieso I can't be an imaginary being. I am merely quoting what others have said about Christianity
Interestingly there have been experiments about this that disprove your opinion
scienceblogs.com/neurophilosophy/2009/12/17/feeling-the-pain-of-others/

devongirl Fri 23-Jun-17 17:00:44

She had, ab, in posting the information earlier (see page 12).

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 16:56:31

Any more work for me GG? I didn't know you had done any

GracesGranMK2 Fri 23-Jun-17 16:52:49

Annie, Bags do you not read anything other than your own posts? (Rhetorical question - you obviously don'thmm) It is already on this thread and I am certainly not doing any more work for you.

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 16:34:15

Yes Elegran, but it doesn't explain why someone who said deeply saddened is accused of being cold dies it?

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 16:32:24

So a husband who has sympathy pains with his wife in labour has gas and air or an epidural GG?

Where is the proof?

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 16:29:20

Trisher, on Good Friday I always end up in tears, try hard not to but hearing the words from the cross are too strong. I hurt, I ache, I feel such sorrow, I do not feel the pain of nail hammered into my body or thorns being rammed on my head or a spear thrust into my side.

God feels our pain, I am not God, you it seems are

Baggs Fri 23-Jun-17 16:23:18

Also, "people can". Which people? All people or only a few?

I have never directly felt someone else's pain though I have often felt sympathy for someone in pain, either physical or emotional.

Baggs Fri 23-Jun-17 16:20:57

"They"? who? Can you cite the research, please?

GracesGranMK2 Fri 23-Jun-17 16:19:26

Because it is not possible to feel another persons pain, one can ache for someone suffering grief or illness but not feel the pain,,imagine it yes, feel it no.

Annie they have done the research; people can. Where is your proof that the research is incorrect?

Elegran Fri 23-Jun-17 15:46:11

Well, not completely empty, it is a way of saying that you can remember or imagine just how much the other person is suffering, and you feel very unhappy yourself that such a thing has happened to them. That is worth saying anyway.

trisher Fri 23-Jun-17 15:42:28

From "No politics" you have as usual managed to turn this into an anti- Corbyn thread Annie Unfortunately for you most people are now coming to realise that you constantly repeat the same old sad phrases and produce the same old reasons for your opinions.
You don't think people can share pain, but you are a Christian and the point of the son of god being born as a man is surely that he shares the human condition and therefore shares pain. There are a number of Christian writings about this.
So if you are saying one person cannot share another pain you are in fact rejecting much of the Christian belief- St Paul said-
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. (2 Cor 1:3-4)
that is as God shares our pain, we share the pain of others.

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 15:21:30

Elegran, exactly, it is not possible to feel another's pain so the expression means nothing, just empty words .

devongirl Fri 23-Jun-17 15:21:25

what does that mean??

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 15:17:08

Brick wall = no defence

devongirl Fri 23-Jun-17 14:16:46

agree completely rigby, waste of time anyway - the words 'head' and ,brick wall' come to mind.

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 13:47:33

And I haven't brought politics into it, a politician used the expression , if a Windsor had said ir would Buck house not be mentioned?

Rigby46 Fri 23-Jun-17 13:20:51

ab go back to the first line of your OP 'no politics please'. I'm not going to waste any more of my time on this thread - I agree with Eleo's last post.

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 13:01:26

How anyone can defend a man who said to the cameras I feel their pain yet the same man invited leaders of the IRA to Westminster just weeks after the Brighton bombing, I had no time for Tebbit but what of his pain, Corbyn didn't feel that did he?

Perhaps a man three times married doesn't understand what marriage means so had no idea of Tebbitts pain,

Rigby46 Fri 23-Jun-17 12:50:30

Why do some people feel it necessary to carry on being so pedantic about this issue - sometimes in expressing sympathy we may be a bit clumsy in our choice of words or be using words figuritively such as 'I feel your pain' . It's common to use words in such a way and its faintly ridiculous to try and do a critical analysis of such usage. I sometimes use the phrase 'I nearly died when I realised......'. Should someone critique that? How did I know I had nearly died? How near was I to death?What were the physiological symptoms? Did a doctor cerify that I had nearly died? What matters is the intent behind the words - when I use that phrase I am trying to express how mortified or shocked I felt after a particular action. Was there evil intent behind the words used oh I forgot, its JC who is evil personified so yes there was

Elegran Fri 23-Jun-17 12:00:22

I hesitate to stick my had above the parapet, but I wonder if those who feel another's pain actually cannot walk when someone else breaks a leg, have to take painkillers when they think of dreadful injuries.

How many of them wake in the night to tears and the utter desolation of knowing that they will never see someone again, never speak to them, never hear their voice?

They may imagine someone else's pain, remember how it felt when the same happened to them, feel distressed at their situation, weep for them, but physical pain is in the nerve endings, emotional pain in the impact on that person or the links that a bereaved person had with the one they lost. Someone else can only partly join them.

Anniebach Fri 23-Jun-17 10:42:47

No I am not, I am irritated by the use of empty words given to the press and from a man who very much does pick and choose when it comes to expressing sympathy.

I consider obsessed someone who is so desperate to defend Corbyn they compare his 'I feel their pain' with that beautiful poem No Man Is An Island,