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Anniebach Sun 18-Jun-17 10:10:32

Difficult to word this . No politics please

Have we become too touchy feely? Too American - I feel you pain .

Remembering the Diana hysteria, Charles was uncaring father and husband, queenie very lucky Balmoral wasn't stormed and she was given a public hanging .

'Your people need you' 'show us you care'

Charles Spencer the adulterer and like his father a bully to his wife. He was applauded for a sentimental speech, not forgetting he first blamed the press then switched to the windsors.

I didn't need queenie, who did?

The same is happening now.

Why the need for public display of emotions?

This is not to lay blame for Diana's death or what is happening now, just wondering if anyone thinks as I do, I don't need celebrities or politicians or royals to do a public display of - I feel you pain .

Hope we are spared another rewording of Candle In The Wind

Why do we need this? I really am puzzled

whitewave Wed 21-Jun-17 18:15:28

annie I am interested in your understanding of what a communist member means? What exactly do you mean by communism. I'm a bit confused by your statements

durhamjen Wed 21-Jun-17 18:11:40

The reason Corbyn said he felt their pain about the people injured at the mosque is because he knows them.
It is in his constituency and he holds meetings there. He was there overnight after the attack, and even May praised him for his actions at the mosque.
They were both there at the same time; she had been meeting the leaders, he had been in the mosque meeting his friends.

Such a shame you always have to attack everything Corbyn does, Annie. It is making you look foolish.

WilmaKnickersfit Wed 21-Jun-17 11:24:34

I didn't say that Annie. Read my posts again perhaps? What I did say though is the advisor is a former member of the Communist Party.

Anniebach Wed 21-Jun-17 11:19:59

Why is saying Corbyn has an advisor from the communist party stirring Wilma?

Anniebach Wed 21-Jun-17 11:18:01

Really Wilma? So labour has Tory advisors and UKIP advisors, Tory has the Respect party advisors and SNP advisors ?

WilmaKnickersfit Wed 21-Jun-17 10:37:29

Former member of the Communist Party. Stop stirring Annie. Clever politicians choose good people as advisers and not always with the same mindset as themselves.

trisher Wed 21-Jun-17 10:27:32

Corbyn was always a good public speaker Jalima1108 that's why the video of his Stop The War speech was so widely circulated.

Anniebach Wed 21-Jun-17 10:24:54

Is a member of the communist party a wise choice? Suppose for some it would be

Rigby46 Wed 21-Jun-17 10:18:35

Yes Jalima he does - seems to be making wiser choices about his advisers than TM did

Anniebach Wed 21-Jun-17 10:15:27

He did Jalima,bathe change started when he took on a new advisor in December, sugar I have forgotten his name, he came from the community party , will get back with his name

Jalima1108 Wed 21-Jun-17 10:12:38

in Cast Away

I agree that recent photos of TM make her look dreadful but the press has form for this
Yes, they do Rigby - there are some dreadful photos which can make even the most glamorous of celebs look 'less than appealing'.
Catch me in a bad light and I don't always look so gorgeous either.

Jalima1108 Wed 21-Jun-17 10:09:33

Corbyn is Oscar material.
grin
Funny that, because he started out as dull and uninspiring in his vest and scruffy hair and beard (a bit Tom Hanks on Cast Away but much less appealing) but he does seem to have had a makeover and some coaching in the public speaking field.

Anniebach Wed 21-Jun-17 10:06:24

Eleothan, I have not been supportive of May and her politics, I have defended her as I would anyone who has been called a murderer, part of a plot to empty London of council tenants, unfeeling because she didn't leap in front of cameras telling us she feels their pain.

Rigby46 Wed 21-Jun-17 09:56:11

anndixty I agree that recent photos of TM make her look dreadful but the press has form for this - if someone is as photographed as she is, there will always be one photo that supports the narrative you want. She wouldn't be getting this bad press ( and photos) though unless there were a group of senior Tories who wanted it. The problem for them is balancing keeping her long enough to avoid another election but not too long to do them irreparable harm. Tricky

Eloethan Wed 21-Jun-17 09:49:35

anniebach I didn't ask you for your view of Corbyn's response as compared to May's. Since you have been so supportive of May, I asked you whether you have been happy with the way she has responded to this tragedy. As I've said before, I think it has been rather convenient for the Conservative Party that so much ire has been directed at May personally. However, I do think it is natural to expect a Prime Minister to react in a timely, effective and sensitive way in a disaster situation.

annsixty Wed 21-Jun-17 09:32:53

If I had aged so much in a few weeks as TM has I would be leaving it to someone stronger and go and enjoy my H's wealth. She looked dreadful in the DT yesterday. Sorry I can't do links.

Anniebach Wed 21-Jun-17 09:12:20

May reminds me of Gordon Brown - not politically - he couldn't ' do' tv either, Corbyn is Oscar material.

Iam64 Wed 21-Jun-17 09:07:03

Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn are different personalities. the way zcirbyn was vilified in the press was disgusting and unhelpful. The way in which Theresa May is now the subject of similar treatment is equally disgusting and unhelpful.

Do we really want a society that is so divided and polarised? If the battering the Tories got during and subsequent to the election campaign leads them out if the brutal approach to austerity, ill be pleased. Their manifesto is toast. Good. I sincerely hope hard Brexit is now out the window. All those claims Leaving would reduce red tape and health and safety gone mad - out the window. Good.

Anniebach Wed 21-Jun-17 08:48:41

Eleothan, I am thankful she didn't do the 'I feel their pain' as Corbyn did when asked about the attack on the victims at the mosque

Elrel Wed 21-Jun-17 01:02:32

People (not officials or politicians) helping at Grenfell say there were council housing advisors in two of the relief centres. Maybe the problem is difficulty in setting up means of communication, especially as many residents must still be in some degree of shock.

Jalima1108 Wed 21-Jun-17 00:36:17

Emotions are put on one side and getting on with doing their very best for the patients. People are still in a critical condition and of course they lost a colleague in the London Bridge attack.

durhamjen Tue 20-Jun-17 23:57:46

Oh, Jalima, that must be awful. I've been in intensive care, and so was my husband, and I know how hard those people work. I admire people who do that so much.

Jalima1108 Tue 20-Jun-17 23:44:53

djen my DGN is one of the people dealing with the aftermath of these attacks but I was accused of virtue signalling or words to that effect when I posted something a while ago about the nurses and doctors running towards the Westminster tragedy.
She works in intensive care.

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 20-Jun-17 23:42:10

When we were watching, I said something similar about K&C's Emergency Plan having gone AWOL to my DH. I know our council has one because there's been drills over the years. No doubt the chaos in the days after the tragedy will be investigated. It better be.

durhamjen Tue 20-Jun-17 23:39:40

Jalima, those same people will be dealing with Grenfell now. There are some in critical care there now.