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anniebach it wouldn't matter what some politicians say or do, it will never be enough for some.

Interesting to watch Hospital tonight - I only saw part of it but the team dealing with the aftermath of the Westminster attack were told to put their emotions to one side because they had work to do and obviously they would need to be focused on the tasks ahead.

If our emergency services, hospital staff and government including the PM allowed their emotions to take over at times like this they would not be able to do their jobs effectively.

Perhaps the Council who should have had an Emergency Action Plan in place as all Councils do has collapsed behind the scenes that is why there are reports of them being ineffectual.

I think May was an ineffective Home Secretary and has proved to be ineffective as PM. But just because she is now PM does not mean that she should be singled out for blame in this tragedy. Austerity and the cost-cutting that went with it was a policy insisted upon and championed by the whole of the Conservative Party. It may be convenient for some (including the press) to direct a barrage of criticism at May in order to deflect blame away from Conservative collective responsibility for the sort of rigid ideology that seems to have prioritised monetary savings over the safety and wellbeing of the population. I do, however, think that it was reasonable of people to expect May, as PM, to speak with the residents of Grenfell when she visited the site.

anniebach Have you been happy with the way May has dealt with this awful situation and her responses to questions regarding what happens next? The last time I saw her interviewed (by Emily Maitlis) she kept repeating over and over again what everybody already knew - that it is a terrible tragedy, people have lost their loved ones and everything they own, they are traumatised, etc. etc. etc. She concluded the interview: “What I’m now absolutely focused on is ensuring that we get that support on the ground. Government is making money available; we are ensuring we are going to get to the bottom of what happened we will ensure that people are rehoused, but we need to make sure that that actually happens.”

In fact, the response to the needs and distress of the people who have been bereaved and/or who have lost their homes and everything they own has been abysmal. Even though it is said that now there is better organisation, people on the ground have resported, with astonishment, that up until this point they had been left to their own devices, with no extra staff or services called in and no co-ordination of the services provided by community volunteers.

It looks like it is going viral. It's been picked up by most of the papers, as well as websites with worldwide audiences.

I am sure it will /all ready is viral. As it has been sent to me by two other sources already.

It is pretty astounding though. Just waiting for the same ending and I will then definately believe in real life following art.

Better not tell Iam how it ends, then, trisher.

Sorry, trisher, we need an edit button!

I've not seen House of Cards but that video tells me I will. It's excellent and so timely. Thanks trishet.

trisher I've got a feeling that video will go viral.

Bagatelle, I did say to those who were looking for an excuse to attack May, I apologise to anyone who thought differently

So you know her diary for that day?

Bagatelle as has been said before, she could have combined meeting residents with meeting emergency services, she wasn't required to hug.

Sorry House

www.facebook.com/JJDO4/videos/1837164739933398/
Scarely accurate and predictive The original Hose of Cards and Ian Richardson so cold and calculating!

Who is that aimed at, Annie? I agree with you totally that this is May-bashing. If she had spent the day hugging people, she would have been in the wrong for not getting on with a public inquiry.

Corbyn is an MP, May is PM. Big difference in their working day is there not?
Parliament is not sitting so nothing else for Corbyn to do that day, surely no one can believe May did not have others matters to attend to, and I do not mean weeding an allotment .

This is just the Corbyn fanatics looking for an excuse to attack May, nothing balanced or fair in your criticism . I don't want a Tory government but I will not support this far left pettiness

rar I don't think so, no, as JC was interacting with residents

To return to the OP: yes, I agree. That's not to dismiss the need to support each other or the need for better mental health provision, but the stiff upper lip was part of what made Britain great.

However, I don't think we can keep politics out of what is happening now. The grief of those involved with the Grenfell Tower disaster and the sympathies of the nation have been hijacked by John McDonnell to promote the insurrection by Labour that he has been on about ever since they were thrashed two years ago. It's another instance of brainwashing by media.

Theresa May is out of fashion now so nothing that she can do will be right.

It's an interesting thread actually, as it's about human feelings, although I do wonder if T May had been a Labour Leader, would there have been calls ( from left wing voters) for her to do more, to openly empathise more etc.

It is a rather silly turn of phrase sorry. To me it means behaving in an unacceptable manner which causes disruption or offence to others.

I do not think not talking to survivors on the first day but talking to emergency services to see if their requirements were met was 'seriously out of order ' and I respect the fact she did it without the need for cameras.

You know as well as I do that that is a turn of phrase, Annie, unless you don't know what 'out of order' means.

Seriously out of order? What orders?

Then I can only suggest you find a thread less boring for you Wilma,

As for me wanting people to agree with me , that is so funny, there is a number of sycophants on this forum and you accuse me of wanting anyone to serge with me , got thst wrong didn't you

I agree with Rigby and Maizie: it wasn't necessary for TM to cry/hug etc. but she was seriously out of order in not talking to survivors of the fire in addition to the emergency services during her first visit.

That's a bit of a leap Annie from what Maizie said to your summary.

I agree with her and quite honestly your responses give me the impression that all you want is for people to agree with you and tell you that you are right. The thread is going around in circles, so I don't see the point of posting anymore.