to vape or not to vape, that is the question

gillybob - for me it was replacing one habit for another, but my health and bank balance are very much better for the change! (My vaping kit produces next to no "smoke" and no discernible smell, BTW).

Sorry haven’t read the whole thread but just wondered has anyone successfully given up smoking and vaping? Or is it just a case of replacing one habit for another ?

I meant smoke e cigs on public transport etc.

I have very recently managed to not smoke for the last 60 days. I have not used an e cig, tried them before and ended up thinking “what’s the point”. Also I didn’t want to swop on habit for another. They work for some people, perhaps they should be available on the NHS but there again haven’t they got enough expense?
No, I don’t think people should be able to smoke on public transport/in offices and restaurants. Why go backwards?
I have always thought it was mean of “them” not to allow smoking on a railway platform in the outdoors, why?
As I am slowly getting my sense of smell back I agree about the pong. Totally amazed at the amount of vapour some of them produce. Is it a case of “my ones bigger than your one”?

I hope they don’t manage to change the rules and allow vaping inside restaurants and confined spaces etc. Imagine 2 or 3 (or more ) people doing it at the same time you wouldn’t be able to see for the clouds of smelly steam. One of the guys at work stands outside and vapes and the strong vanilla smell makes me feel physically sick. Okay I get that it’s better than actual smoking (as *M0nica said are they entirely sure it’s harmless though?) but why should anyone else have to breath it in ?

Just because vaping is not as dangerous as smoking, it does not mean that it is safe. There are innumerable reports of its negative affects, many of them from reliable sources like the NHS.
www.nhs.uk/news/cancer/vaping-damages-dna-mice-which-may-increase-cancer-risk/ and while vaping may be safer for smokers than cigarettes, the reason smoking is banned in enclosed spaces, and some outside spaces is because of the health dangers to non-smokers of inhaling other peoples cigarette smoke.

Non-vapers should equally be protected from the harmful vapours and strong odour of e-cigarettes, which can equally be an irritant to eyes and throat.

There was also the suggestion that vaping be supported on prescription. I have a bit of a problem with that. On the one hand the hardened smoker who is committed to giving up smoking is one thing. But on the other, evidence suggests that people are taking up vaping who are not smokers. How does the hard pressed GP/no smoking clinic health professional distinguish between the smoker who needs support and the vaper who fancies having the stuff on prescription?

Yet another case of minority views taking precedence over the majority.
The long term effects of vaping are unknown so I don't want this affecting me or my family.

Assuming that vaping really is 95 percent safer than smoking, people want the ban to continue because they just don't like it..
I don't have a problem with things as they are now, by the way.

No! No! No! Do not let people vape in indoor public places, Smokers are used to to going outside for a smoke. Don't go back on this.

When I first saw the quantity of vapour these things give off, I thought it was a joke. Like a Kenny Everett sketch. The smell is disgusting.

Cigarette smoke gives me migraine and the smell of vapes (what a horrid word) makes me feel sick.

Sorry, but why, when the long term effects are unknown, are the powers that be, going to allow vaping in public places?
Also, I certainly cannot see why this self chosen habit should be funded by money that could be used to much better effect on treatment and/or research, for patients who have developed an illness, by no fault of their own.
I am so cross about this proposed change, that I probably haven't made much sense, so apologies.

A cigarette to be honest Phoenix I don’t like the vape steam.
However, yes, if it helps people not to smoke it’s fine, but not on public transport I hope.

I don't want to be near either phoenix and feel strongly that vaping like smoking is not acceptable in public places.

Sorry, meant to ask, "which would you prefer to be walking past, or standing next to, a vaper or someone smoking a cigarette?

I am a vaper! There, said it!

There are many different vape liquids available, unlike the standard smell from cigarettes. One of my work colleagues smokes, and I can tell from a fair few paces if he has recently had a cigarette!

My personal choice of liquid is columbia coffee, and I don't choose the type that is known as "cloud chaser" which is designed to produce very large amounts of "smoke".

Mr P prefers a blueberry/raspberry one, which is rather on the sweet side (must admit I don't particularly like the smell myself!)

I would never dream of vaping on public transport, and when we go out to a pub or restaurant, obey the same rules that apply to smoking cigarettes.

I have never had any complaints from people in the vicinity when I am vaping, and indeed have often been asked what I am using because it smells so nice!

I’m another who finds the odour from vaping very difficult to tolerate. I truly don’t understand why there is so much vapour from the majority. If it were permitted on a bus or other enclosed space it would be more than unpleasant. I guess the people making up the committee suggesting it could be permitted don’t travel on buses.

If vaping helps them that's fine, just don't inflict it on me.
What happened to good old will power.

I have every sympathy with anyone who is trying to give up smoking and if vaping helps them then that's good. However, I have no desire to be in an enclosed space with someone who is vaping as many of the smells are horribly sickly sweet and I find them really off-putting.

im not to keen on the plumes of vapour pouring out of car windows or the cloud that hangs around groups of vapors outside pubs,hospitals etc. but i can walk by. what does bother me though is if vaping on public transport is allowed. on single decker buses there will be no escape

I'm amazed at two things, firstly, the number of Vape shops around, although I have noticed one near us has closed recently, If they sell only those products I wouldn't have thought they would make enough to cover their overheads. Secondly, the vapour trail when a vaper, if that's the right word, passes by. Powerful!

Yes, I vape, but I'm always mindful of other people who may be affected by my little bit of vapour.
I don't have huge plumes like a steam train!

I vape after years of being a heavy smoker and many attempts to give up. My husband is a non smoker and I have never smoked inside.

He does not mind me vaping inside as he says there is no smell associated with it.

What is breathed out from vaping is steam not smoke. I don't see why the manufacturers need this smoke effect from vaping.

I would never vape in a restaurant or where it might affect others but it has helped me tremendously to break the habit.

I do not want to be subjected to other people's vaping, its still an unknown quantity.
I gave up smoking without resorting to this alternative habit so don't see why I should put up with this unpleasantness.