Baby rape

Two wrongs don’t make a right, puts you in the same catergory, a killer You may justify it but it’s no ones right to take a life, in my world anyway

Bluebelle, the fact of the matter and one which makes perfect sense is that to rid society of these miscreants is to gradually do away with the type of crimes they commit.Right ? Prison does not work !

Why should they have the right to live ? What about the victims involved in these heinous crimes, where are their rights ?
Could you live with the fact that someone has taken the life of one of yours ? How would you feel ?
I'm sorry but why should my taxes pay to keep this monster alive ?

Killing is what that subhuman did to an innocent child !

You becoming a ‘killer’ can never square the circle EllenVannin you are of course entitled to believe in whatever you feel is right but I can never see how killing a killer can be the civilised way forward
People need to be punished for their crime and more importantly kept in conditions where they can never do it again but surely the human race needs to be better than the lowest
People who abuse babies, or children should NEVER be free to do it again In my makebelieve world I always think a nice cold island somewhere between Scotland and Iceland with no way off accomodating just paedophiles then they do to each other what they would have done to children Helicopters can drop food and essential rations monthly There would be all the essentials on the islands to make shelters for themselves and it would be an island with plenty of natural flora to eat I m not cruel It would be a wonderful idea to keep their dirty minds and hands busy in being productive instead of destructive
That’s just me

Oh I can assure you men are every bit as incensed at this sort of crime. The compassionate society we have today has is flaws.

Agreed David------a streetful of women better still.

Prison's no good as these monsters reoffend. Fact !

Capital punishment will work--------the offender can't do it again can they ? And so it'll go on ad infinitum. Makes sense.

There was another case about a year ago, there is no punishment bad enough, the police should have allowed him to escape and let the locals deal with him. As it is he is going to be protected from harm for the rest of his days at great expense.

I don't think it is porn, there was an awful lot of historical sex crime and abuse from the past is now coming to light, before porn was widespread. Years ago an offender like that would have gone to a general prison, it is unlikely that he would have survived long enough to get to court. The other prisoners would have made sure he got the justice he deserved. It would have been a suicide or an accident no publicity.

I've very gingerly come onto this thread because of my beliefs in capital punishment.

I'd have no compunction in giving such monsters a lethal injection. I'd willingly do it myself because I feel very strongly about the monsters who commit such heinous crimes as this.

I can't read details of such, the same as I either turn the sound down or change channels if it comes on the news so that I'm not left in a blubbering heap at the thought.

There's no place in society for these mongrels !!

I have heard of this before but it makes me violently sick to think about the perverts who do this that I am afraid I couldn’t read about it. My eldest is a SW and I know she has had similarly horrific cases to deal with so my hat off to her and to all the other professionals who have to deal with these petverted creatures

I wonder how closely they're monitored.
My friends family member was wearing a tag and has moved 40 odd miles away and nobody knew.

many people seem to be under the impression that a life sentence means only 8 years.
Actually, a life sentence does mean life, in that their sentence hangs over them for life and is never expunged. In really severe cases, the judge can order a 'whole life sentence', which means the prisoner will never be released. The majority of life prisoners are given a minimum term of imprisonment, but are released on lifetime parole. That means they're monitored and any reoffending, or breaking the terms of their parole, will immediately send them back to prison for an indefinite period without any further trial.

MOnica, sorry, read and posted at speed. Your post didn't support the death penalty.
Your subsequent post about the length of life sentences is helpful because many people seem to be under the impression that a life sentence means only 8 years. Some prisoners are considered so dangerous they are never released.

Stansgran, lifers are set a tariff based on the circumstances of their crime. That mean that the judge sets a minimum time they have to serve. I often read of it being 20 or 30 years and there are quite a number of people sentenced to a life tariff, which means they will never be released, Harold Shipman, the Moors murderers and many more. In fact the number sentenced to life sentences with very long minimum sentences or life sentences has been increasing in recent years.

I'm one of those who wishes life meant life and not seven years. I am happy to pay my taxes for prisons to be built. There are sins which make one hate the sinner whatever people say about hating the sin but loving the sinner.

Iam64, I am NOT a supporter of capital punishment, in fact I have never supported it, ever. I merely pointed out the number of serial murders who find the thought of life imprisonment a worse punishment than death and kill themselves by committing suicide. Which is the best argument for life imprisonment for those who commit vile crimes, like the one considered on this thread.

I am not sure why you read my post as supporting capital punishment.

It is only by talking and listening to these man that there may one day be a way of saving children . Once they are dead ?

I do not believe in capital punishment - never have. But this excuse for a human doesn't deserve to share our air. Heartbreaking. I hope to god they can heal this poor wee mite.

MOnica, capital punishment may sometimes kill an innocent person. It damages those who inflict it. High levels of alcohol addiction, depression and some suicides amongst former hangmen.

Capital punishment may not be a deterrent, but it does rid the world of sick individuals who do not /cannot change their behaviour. Alternatively castration / medication should be manadatory .

Anyway, capital punishment is the easy way out for the perpetrator. Look at the number of those who have committed dreadful crimes against others who commit suicide in prison to avoid a life sentence - Harold Shipman, Fred West - and those are just the names that spring immediately to mind, there are many others.

Let those who commit crimes like this serve life sentences, with no minimum term.

No return to capital punishment, it is not a deterrent

All research suggests that capital punishment is not a deterrent. Look at USA..high murder rate but has capital punishment.

I hate the crime but can't believe that state supported murder in the form of capital punishment would be any deterrent. Nor do I believe capital punishment of any kind has any place in a decent society.

What use are these vile people to society? It's a shame we can't bring back capital punishment for some crimes.
I would have no qualms in pulling the lever.

This is so very sad. It’s hard to imagine how anyone could even have those thoughts, let alone carry them out.