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Grammaretto Mon 04-Feb-19 14:32:12

Maybe I should have put this on AIBU but I genuinely am interested in what you think.
I have had 2 youngish (mid 20 ish) volunteers staying and from day one they made it plain that they were
a) cold
b) didn't like our food.
So after a few days of this I suggested, (and had given them extra bedding) they should find somewhere else because having brought up a family who ate what was on their plate or went hungry, I was not prepared to compromise with these 2 .
They sounded surprised and one said that it was because her own DM had been forced to eat as a child that she in turn allowed her children total freedom.

Why is it we either react against our upbringing or repeat the conditioning with our own children. i.e.
What was good enough for me
I'll never inflict that on my own kids
Any views out there? These 2 have left and I am relieved.

Grammaretto Sat 09-Feb-19 15:07:17

Tooyoungytobeagrandma but these 2 were old enough to be teachers.
I used so rate the antipodeans the highest until I met some lazy ones.
It is always hit and miss. We have also kept in contact with a few of ours and welcome them back anytime.
We have been invited to their countries but not made it yet.
We've met some of their parents too who've come to check us out meet us .

Tooyoungytobeagrandma Fri 08-Feb-19 23:05:41

I've done hosting (slightly different) & despite knowing food likes/dislikes, allergies/intolerances etc before arrival I often wasted so much food. Mostly young students they had breakfast, we're driven to pick up points, collected later and given evening meal. Usually had pairs so they would have company of same age. I had some lovely students but after a few "difficult" students decided to host the teachers instead. This was much easier, they enjoyed all the food, were good company and some I've visited in their country as we have stayed in touch. Have to say (from my own experiences) the French were the most difficult and the Japanese the best.

Grammaretto Thu 07-Feb-19 09:01:54

Lily65 grin really?
And they say travel broadens the mind. I hope the next host they find is normal. I am a little wary of my next guest. I'm looking at their online profile now......

Lily65 Wed 06-Feb-19 19:11:43

Curry and spag bol may have seemed odd and sitting round a table eating porridge may have seemed odd. Piercings and big ear lobes may have seemed odd.
Wearing a coat inside is odd.

Grammaretto Wed 06-Feb-19 13:53:05

And there was I thinking we live in a multi-ethnic society where food is similar all over. Spag bol and curry.
There are some foods I dislike such as fermented soy beans - a delicacy in Japan - but I wasn't suggesting that my guests were subjected to anything very odd.

Hazy52 Wed 06-Feb-19 11:54:16

My son and daughter in law (Finnish) live abroad. One year they visited from Southern Germany in the winter. Our house was declared too cold so the central heating was on full but was still not warm enough. Downstairs is mostly ceramic tiled floor with the exception of a carpeted lounge which may have contributed to cold feeling but, we did provide slippers. I was often standing with the back door open wide trying to get some relief from the heat! On another occasion, on the day they arrived, horror of horrors the central heating boiler broke. They had two heaters in their bedroom and the blast hit you when the door was opened. We have now found a solution; they stay with daughter who is also a hot house flower. When we stay with them (now in Finland) we take T shirts in winter to cope with the heat. Incidentally, someone (sorry did not get the name) mentioned fermented fish in Sweden. The story we have been told is that a batch of fish, caught by Finnish fishermen, had gone off so it was canned and sold to the Swedish people as a delicacy!

From the other perspective, we once rented an old farmhouse in Wales over the New Year in a very cold snap (the border collie dog that was there always lived outside but every opportunity she got to get inside the house was taken). The owners had moved to a modern house in the village which should have made us think. We spent the entire time indoors huddled over the inadequate coal fire wrapped in blankets.

As for food, we find typical German food unpalatable. At one restaurant, three plates of food were passed between us (son and us) trying to find something we could eat - cold fish and gnocchi was one offering - even husband, who always eats everything struggled. German father in law's idea of a salad was cucumber sliced in cream. So I sympathise with your guests if that is what they are used to.

GabriellaG54 Tue 05-Feb-19 21:49:02

There are many hotels which used to be prisons. Mal Maison in Oxford others in Germany, Turkey, USA, Russia, Italy and more. All simply stunning. Found on Google.

GabriellaG54 Tue 05-Feb-19 21:40:35

Grammaretto
I was kidding. Some prisons are a bit like hotels...2 star probably.
I used to be a prison 'visitor' in my professional/working life and believe me, it's not a bad life if you've had no life to speak of.

Grammaretto Tue 05-Feb-19 21:34:25

GabriellaG54 ah I see. It was unlikely to be a prison turned hotel because there's a shortage of prisons but not hotels.

GabriellaG54 Tue 05-Feb-19 21:28:10

Grammaretto

I think you're mistaken. It's a hotel that was turned into a prison...with all the facilities of an hotel.
We do it properly in Liverpool. winkgrin

Grammaretto Tue 05-Feb-19 21:17:01

That Welsh farm holiday sounds great GabriellaG54
When our DC were smallish we stayed on a Welsh farm and helped with haymaking.
It was bliss. Our 7yr old wanted to farm as a result. He doesn't but he really enjoyed that holiday.

Grammaretto Tue 05-Feb-19 21:12:49

Oh my that is seriously cold Cold
I didn't say you have to wear coats indoors here but you might want extra layers even inside. Our cold is raw and damp unlike that dry cold which you probably mean.

GabriellaG54 Tue 05-Feb-19 20:40:56

A few years ago I fancied a farm holiday where I could help on the farm. I found a place on Gumtree which offered bed and board for a full days work in Carmarthenshire.
I had a fabulous time, ate and socialised with the family for two weeks. Mind you, this was Autumn, beautiful weather and I got plenty of exercise all day, which was what I wanted.
Holidays like that can be beneficial to both parties.

Chewbacca Tue 05-Feb-19 20:37:54

Our local HMprison has an award winning restaurant called, quite appropriately, The Clink. grin The food is so good there that they have a waiting list to reserve a table.

GabriellaG54 Tue 05-Feb-19 20:30:59

Well, I LOVE porridge and I would happily eat cheese on toast with maybe a sliced tomato, or beans and chips, that used to be my fav meal when I was a child.
I always picked out the bits in marmalade on toast and mum always put them back on.
Since adulthood I've always bought shredless marmalade.
I'm a vegetarian and plain/simple food pleases me best.

Cold Tue 05-Feb-19 20:16:01

Grammaretto - Cold your name does suggest that you are cold or feel the cold.You are correct and I think this couple from northern Germany were used to much warmer houses than we have in Scotland. Ours is big, old and draughty. But it is not a hotel. I don't think their room is cold but if it's minus 8 outside its hard to keep warm unless you wear coats indoors

I live in a very Cold climate - rural Sweden where this week we have had minus 26C, about 3-4 feet of snow, and I live in a 170 year old wooden farmhouse. However, even I would think that the cold is extreme if you have to wear coats indoors.

Jalima1108 Tue 05-Feb-19 19:33:39

It certainly was not!
Sorry, I got a bit confused there, you said he danced, not sang!

Grammaretto Tue 05-Feb-19 18:55:48

The Armenian restaurant had been in an old steamie in Stockbridge but was closed down by environmental health. Then he reopened in abbeyhill in appropriately, an old police station. See I've been googling.

Grammaretto Tue 05-Feb-19 18:51:38

Jalima1108 yes it's in Liverpool with self catering with a fitness room.

Jane10 Tue 05-Feb-19 18:47:49

It certainly was not! He was a well known figure around the New Town.

Jalima1108 Tue 05-Feb-19 18:37:58

It wasn't Charles Aznavour, was it?

Jalima1108 Tue 05-Feb-19 18:36:48

Grammaretto I think there is a prison which has been turned into a hotel, possibly in England somewhere.

Jane10 Tue 05-Feb-19 17:35:45

We've been there too Grammaretto! It was awful. Dreadful food but we were too scared of the mad Armenian not to eat it. The wine would strip paint. What a place. Long gone before the days of TripAdvisor.

Grammaretto Tue 05-Feb-19 17:08:39

MissAdventure gringrin
HMP Scottish branch. We could call it Scotland Yard.
I bet it would be popular.
There are always weird folk who want to go to awful places.
There used to be a restaurant in Edinburgh run by an Armenian. He didn't advertise yet it was always full.
There was just a phone number. If you were late you'd not get in. If he didn't like you he'd throw you out. There was no menu but a dark cavernous candlelit hall. He cooked and served everything himself but woe betide you if you didn't eat the 10 courses. There was wine and afterwards he'd put on his record player and dance. He'd expect you to join in.
I'm off down memory lane now.

Lesleyann9 Tue 05-Feb-19 17:06:50

I keep my house at about 18 degrees which isn’t warm. I was brought up on the east coast of Scotland and the winters can be cold. My husbands family shivered constantly till they moved to Michigan Now at -40 degrees so they are much tougher now. Volunteering isn’t a picnis