" The Saj"

Thank you, Niobe for your informative post! ?

Thank you and how very interesting. It makes much more sense now.

We ( well I ) forget partition was so recent.

Ok , let me just say I am a native Punjabi speaker.

During Partition the Punjab was divided between India and Pakistan and I have friends whose families come from Pakistani Punjab who see themselves as 'Punjabi', I also know of people whose origins are in Indian Punjab who also see themselves as 'Punjabi'.

Sajid Javed's father was probably called 'Mr Din Raat ' which if translated literally means ' Mr Day Night' but 'Din Raat' is a phrase often used to denote some continuous event i.e.the 'and' is missed out. Mr Javid Senior probably worked a lot of overtime to make sure his children got a good start in life. My father did too.

is the clue to me alleged thickness in the word " glance" petra?

Callistemon, yes, mushrooms.

And you are very polite about the 'nice organic material. Or whatever.'

Impressive use of 4 syllables. Thank God he's not from Sri Lanka.

I agree it is a bit of a tongue-twister Gonegirl

The only way I can say it is by breaking it down into four parts, and then I have to say each part slowly or it can roll into Jaggid Savvid or Saggidge Javis. My brain does a "red lorry, yellow lorry" thing with it.

Saj Id Jav Id

and it sounds like

Sadge-id Javvidd when I say it. Slowly.

Still waiting for petra to tell me why I am dim.......

Listen to Stephen Merchant!

I don't know what the problem is with this thread. I think it's interesting.

I don't know what a Bristol accent sounds like.

Or are we mushrooms, Day6?

Kept in the dark and fed on nice organic material (or whatever)

But I can't for the life of me say his name.
Try saying it with a Bristol accent, Gonegirl, it's much easier.

If there are rabbit holes on Gransnet, I think I may have fallen down one.....

Is that a dig at Elvive for reading the Daily Mail? I've read it practically cover to cover today. Not the daft celebs bits though, but this isn't that.

How rude you are but still carry on and explain for us thickos.

Elvive
As it's clear you don't understand my post I doubt very much that you would understand an explanation.

I seriously have no idea what you are talking about petra. You mean I should use an emoji?

I feel this is somewhat unlikely

Well, it's a fact. (see my post?)

Elvive
You pick up an awful lot from ^a glance^?

Why are some folks feeling the need to explain their posts on this thread?

We've all got heritage. You can talk about it you know.

Wow, impressive knowledge. ( that sounds sarcastic and it's not supposed to)

When partition happened people who were living in Northern India found themselves arbitrarily either in India in the Punjab or in Pakistan, depending on where the line was drawn on the map.

If you were Muslim but were told you were now in India in the Punjab life was hard and persecution likely, likewise for those who were Hindu and found themselves in the Muslim state of Pakistan. But you could move over the border to Pakistan (and vice versa).
This meant leaving everything behind, home, job, any wealth. But people did it to feel safe.

Some of those who lost everything opted instead to come to Britain to build an entirely new life, like Sajid Javids father. I made the assumption he would probably speak Punjabi because that’s what most people from that area speak.

I thought it sounded better in Punjabi than in English.

That’s all. That’s really all.

OK , I had a glance at the Mail and it mentioned that Mr. Javid has made a short film to show us his life and family.

The article then mentioned that his dad had earned the nick name " Mr Night and Day".

I feel this is somewhat unlikely as a nick name tends to be short and quick.

My scepticism is the same as when I read " award winning coffee" Which award?

It was some foolish musing which had nothing to do with race, I can assure you.

I expect it was the local (punjabi?) community that gave him the nickname.

Then if he was called that when he lived in England what has panjab to do with it

Those people were hard workers. Respect.