Children in Pubs

We had the misfortune to go out for a cheap pub meal with the in laws on a bank holiday. Our son sat with us and chatted - as always - and was shushed if we thought he was too loud - our too loud being anything more than a normal speaking voice. But the place was full of children who were just left to run around yelling and screaming with no parental supervision. It was hell. Never again!!

I agree with the landlord. I hate it when you have children running around a pub/ restaurant. It seems as tho it's a case with the parents are thinking as long as there not bothering me they are ok. I've seen a child on on holiday last year he was sitting under the table eating his dinner, the parents kept asking him to sit up the table and he said no, the child was about 5or6.

Nice one suziewoozie!

Many years ago, we were having a family meal in a local carvery. My then small granddaughter watched as another small child ran around getting under people’s feet as they carried their plates back, and generally made a nuisance of himself.

Suddenly my granddaughter’s voice cut through the chatter in the restaurant, “Look at that naughty boy running around. Why doesn’t he sit up at the table properly?”.

Other diners looked across and smiled in agreement. The people at the table in question did not even register it.

Fantastic and well done to the landlord, there should be more like him/her. Adults with children in so many public places eg pubs restaurants, supermarkets, large stores, garden centres, need I go on seem to think the children should have free reign to run, shout, do whatever they want regardless of how their behaviour affects anyone else.. large high end furniture store, chikdren rollerblading along the aisles. Out of town venue so must have come by car with adults knowing full well what would happen. Not pleased when assistant asked them to stop as not insured fir any mishaps. Parents demanded to speak with manager who reiterated what assistant had said. Well! What do you expect us to do, they don't have any other footwear. Nonplussed manager suggested they either walk in socks or come back when wearing appropriate footwear. I had to commend the fellow. Told cme children and their antics cause a lot of hasske and parents seem totally unconcerned about trying to control them. It's everywhere, total disregard for responsibility.

Totally agree JanaNana or we took it in turns to baby sit friend's children.

Can't see anything wrong with the landlord putting up these rules and hopefully enforcing them. In fact it would be a good idea if more places did this. Too many parents seem to think it's a crèche of some kind were other people should look out for their children apart from themselves.
Years ago parents booked a babysitter for a child free evening out and these issues didn't arise. Sign of the times now though.

Agree with the landlord. Very sensible. We brought ours up to be sociable, quiet, to talk quietly, not run round, not to disturb other diners, have good manners, etc. When very young, we brought their baby cutlery to use.

At one restaurant, we were advised on a family celebration that children must be gone by seven. We promised to take them out immediately if there was fuss, and this was grudgingly accepted. When we left, the whole assembly was told 'these children can come again, they are welcome'., and they were given a free pudding each.

Now they are older, we don't allow phones at table while eating, but accept that when after dinner conversation drifts to boring adult stuff, they may use them for amusement, if they wish. (I still remember being exquisitely bored when visiting adults with my parents!)

Can't stand rowdy uncontrolled children. High spirits is one thing. Shrieking, jumping around, causing chaos is another.

Children in pubs is fine by me on the proviso that they stand their own round.

Ha ha Beckett, love that sign! I totally agree with the landlord. When we were children, we were not allowed in pubs unless with the landlord's permission (think it might have been illegal then). We were either parked in the pub garden with a packet of crisps and a bottle of Lemonade, or left in the car with the same if it was raining. The message was clear- pubs were for adults and children were only allowed in restaurants if they could act appropriately. Well done that landlord!

On children: one is either brought up or dragged up! Formerly from the catering world, I totally concur with the Landlord.

EU children, especially the French, are taught from a very early age how to behave in a restaurant, partly because of the French passion for food and cooking (although that is changing due to British/American exports.) Kids/parents here tend to follow the American model.

I recently saw a sign outside a pub that read ;- 'Well behaved dogs welcome. Children to be left tied up outside'

Gosh riverwalk how refreshing!
A shop near us has a sign that says:
'Unsupervised children will be given an espresso and a puppy '!
Seriously, my DS once worked in a 'family friendly' pub and said that all the small children were an absolute health and safety nightmare. He lost count of the near misses with hot plates of food or drinks almost tipped over children underfoot as staff tried to take food to the tables. Never a harsh word heard either!

A friend who works in a large department store despairs of parenting; she has lost count of the times she has had to get children off beds where they are trampolining - one set of parents was in the cafe when this happened. Running along sofas, swinging on furniture, pulling curtain displays down - she has seen it all.

Well done that landlord! Sadly I remember going to a café with my daughter and my grandson who was four at the time. I got up and walked out when he carried on screaming and she didn’t do anything. My excuse, there were other parents in there who knew me and it was embarrassing. When she brought him out after me I think the whole cafe breathed a sigh of relief. He thought I was mean and said so. I told him I didn’t go to cafes with noisy children.

Referring to the OP parents who think having to control their children in public puts to much pressure on them should, maybe, look at why they had the children in the first place???

Not bragging but we could take our kids and gd to any pub or restaurant. Our children went in the garden or some had a children’s room, going back to 70s 80s. They were always well behaved. Our gd is a millennium child now 18 but we could take her into any restaurant or pub and she was always well behaved too. It doesn’t take much to be firm with your children.

Hoorah for this pub landlord. Why should other customers have to put up with ill-disciplined children?

WadesNan
Wow! That beggars belief.

In our local pub some years ago, the landlord asked my daughter to stop her toddler wandering around, in the interest of the child’s safety

She took great offence, and wanted us to leave, we didn’t, she sulked, we pointed out that she surely didn’t want her to get under the feet of someone carrying boiling hot food, but she couldn’t see it, thought they should be careful to avoid her!

Well done that landlord. I’m happy to see children eating out and learning good manners in the process.

Re: The family that got up and moved towards their seven-year-old, is it possible they moved to avoid the child throwing a fit? Surely they thought that moving was a better option for all around them. I can only imagine what would’ve been said had the child thrown an epic fit.

I might have moved with my child, but once in the car on the way home my child certainly would’ve heard my opinion.

I watched that programme about GPS ' Behind closed doors. A mother brought her small child to be seen by the doctor, accompanied by an older sister. Around 8-9 years old. The elder child weighed and measured herself and ended up doing cartwheels around the surgery. . Throughout this the doctor was trying to diagnose the younger child. At no time did the mother admonish her daughter. Can't imagine what the Dr. thought

Poor parenting is likely to backfire when children who are badly behaved end up being unhappy adults who find it difficult to fit in with others and stick to normal social behaviour. Its something that we all need to learn. This thread reminds me of the doggy one, I think the same rules apply though, children nor pets should be a nuisance to others! Happy days!