Regeneration

EllanVannin
When I lived there it was called the thruppeny bit. Maybe it has two names. Lots of Irish blood in Liverpool.

The RC cathedral is nick-named Paddy's Wigwam.

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lemongrove
Mezzanine cafe bar is in Anglican Cathedral and The Crypt is in the RC Cathedral and holds 300 diners. They have other dining areas too.

The waterfront is worth a visit on it's own but I dislike the constant music and guide-talk on the ferries. I don't know if they still do it (music and talking via the tannoy) but I hate it.

Library and museums are all walking distance from waterfront and Cathedrals.

You must also visit the Philharmonic pub, it's amazing...especially the 'gents'.
It too is walking distance from the Cathedrals.

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Lemongrove

The RC ( Metropolitan) Cathedral is called 'the thruppenny bit' after the 12 sided old brass coin which was worth three pennies.

The Anglican Cathedral is huge and has a great refectory where you can enjoy drinks snacks or full meal.

It was built over three generations with sons, fathers and grandfathers all using their masonry and carving skills.
First stone laid in 1904 completed in 1978.

Here are a few pics. The white one is the RC and redbrick the Anglican.

Cagsy
Agreed. I'm a big fan of Liverpool and Liverpudlians and get a bit emotional when talking to some call centre staff who have 'the accent'. Then we get to chatting about all sorts of unrelated stuff as you do.
I was in a local (Guildford) taxi on Saturday and the driver asked if I was from the North ( flat vowels ?)
Turned out he and his family are huge fans of the City and visit often. All also support LFC through thick and thin...as I do.
We're universally loved, moreover, we can poke fun at ourselves too.
Great place and great people.

Just been with a friend who had a few days in Liverpool, she thought it was wonderful, so much culture there, galleries and museums etc, and she urged me to go with her next time.So long since I was there, but the Catholic Cathedral was (is) breathtaking in it’s design, and the busy city had a real buzz.

What will the cost of all these new builds be in energy use and emissions of CO2?

Every such development should have to publish an environmental impact plan. Including why it is not refurbishing existing buildings and re-utilising them in a sustainable way. All these generation schemes are generally neglected slums within 20 years.

that overbudget tram system was a Labour project as was the overbudget Holyrood building .The SNP had 7 decades of Lanbour failings to catch up on and they've done well in the few years they have been in power especially as they've been mitigating austerity measures like the bedroom tax and thats costing a lot of money every year

I'm sure you think we'd be better off under a Tory government ..oops look south and see the mess they're in !Anyone with half a brain can see the population is much more condensed in the central belt so the need for better roads is higher.Who IS running your councils now?

I have to strongly disagree with Ellan Vannen, Liverpool is an amazing, vibrant city that attracts so many visitors each year. Some people we met on holiday came and stayed in one of our fabulous hotels from their home in Scotland and were blown away by the beautiful buildings, great pubs and restaurants and of course the people (well most of them anyway) and can't wait to return as there's so much to see. I've lived here for 57 years and never wanted to live anywhere else, of course it's got it's problems - where hasn't, but I see a creative energy trying to tackle some of these problems. I only wish Joe Anderson would build some council houses, it's all student accommodation in and around the city centre.

EllenVannin Actually Laing O Rourke are now the contractor for the new Royal Liverpool Hospital so although there is not a completion date, it is moving forward in being finished. And actually I am Dammed glad that I do live in Liverpool for many reasons actually. Of course if your brother can't wait to leave that's his choice

I thought you would know that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, Paddyann.

Yes, the bypass for which planning began in 1946. Successive govts failed to act and Holyrood didn't exactly shake a leg to get it done either. In the meantime Glasgow & Edinburgh got all their new road systems and of course the over-budget tram system in Edinburgh.

As Overthehills says, the A96 is appalling. Much of it is single carriageway and some of it is reminiscent of a 1950's country lane, all twists and bends, up hill and down dale. That's a major road linking two of Scotland's main cities outside the Central Belt.

Now Aberdeen (and Inverness & Fort William) has had their New Caledonian Sleeper trains taken away - to be given to Glasgow and Edinburgh. The Central Belt riding rough-shod over us again.

I agree SueDonim and Lindyloo about Scotland - the money stays in the central belt. Aberdeen may have a new bypass but have you been on the rest of the A96 recently Paddyann? Moray Council gets the least of any council in Scotland, so much so that “essential” cutbacks include grass cutting on areas adjoining schools and areas where children play, leading to an increase in ticks and the possibility of Lyme Disease. That’s only one example of how central (Scottish) government cuts are affecting people here in the north east.

My local town, Wokingham in Berkshire, has recently been ‘regenerated’ and it is an absolute disaster. It was a lovely country market town before, now it’s a horrible modern, soulless town with so many empty shops because the shopkeepers who were there during the horrendous works and road closures, lost footfall and couldn’t afford to stay.

You meeting interesting people.
None more interesting than Bristolians wherever you travel, Gabriella!

It’s not a question of can they afford to do it, Tillybelle but can they afford not to. Urban regeneration stimulates the local economy, providing employment and improving the environment for those who live there as well as hopefully attracting investment from outside. . To tackle the issues of decline and urban decay, UK cities and others around the world have all designed processes of urban regeneration.
What they may have in common is significant private sector participation in the regeneration and rehabilitation of decaying urban areas.

How can they afford it? I thought the Country was broke? I thought the NHS was on its knees, Education flagging etc. I realise these are different pots of money but isn't it all the same in the end?

Where does the money come from?

They will say when they begin it is going to cost £x billion and be finished in x years.. After a couple of years £x + x, and so on. Look at the cost of Hinkley C.

Well the Mayor of Manchester has announced that he intends to make buses fit for purpose in our city. Like London he says. Greater Manchester Transport is coming back and private companies such as Stagecoach won’t be able to just cherry pick the most lucrative routes any more whilst other areas can go hang.

Should be interesting.

Going off piste, Boris is apparently in Manchester tonight at the hustings in Clayton conservative club. He’s just arrived .... by helicopter! Mind you so has Jeremy Hunt. You’d think they could’ve shared one!

I did give feedback on my stays to the council, tourist information at harbourside and tripadvisor. All mine were and are 5* and highly recommended. I've never seen such a great bus service and I may ultimately move there, I liked it so much.

In my little part of Scotland, we never see any money being spent by local or main government! We are on the border of 2 different local councils, but n
All we seem to get is our bin emptied once a week. Makes me so angry, we pay the same council tax as Glasgow and Edinburgh but never seem to get anything back!

Bristol is awful, the traffic and buses bad and the pollution horrendous. I rarely go into the city now despite only living 8 miles away. It takes me about1.5 hours to get to the centre, so instead I go to Cardiff. 50 mins on the motorway, free parking outside Cardiff and traffic free cycle ride into the centre. All this talk of doing up Liverpool is probably election talk. Promises, promises, we have the same with the railway they are going to open in about 100 years time. Always peaks when there is a look of an election.

The area where I live is neglected by the local council roads are terrible ,bus service is very poor , houses are being thrown up with no thought to how schools , doctors etc are going to cope . Driving and parking atrocious I could go on ,we would move but family live near .

Suedonim you must have missed the bypass in Aberdeen ,my friend tells me it saves her at least half an hour each way on her travels from Laurencekirk where there have been Electric charging stations installed for cars...no petrol station there though

My initial reason for visiting Bristol was to see Hart's Bakery under the arches near BTM station. It's matchless, superb...I brought home cakes, pastries and the best French bread ever.
My tips on visiting Bristol are:
Buy a railcard
Use your bus pass ( if you have one)
Book airbnb where the owner actually lives in the property.
I've had fantastic rooms with Molten Brown or Korres bathroom products and 5* breakfasts in the garden in summer or dining room in cool weather. Towels and sometimes even new cotton slippers provided.
You meeting interesting people.

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I was recommended to eat with some of the yacht sharers, at the River Grill (Grille?) which had great food and views then 3 of us opted for a last stroll before turning in.
The following day I met two ladies who lived in church housing near Sion Place who offered tea and cake, all very interesting as they had a wonderful garden beyond the walls and filled me in on the history of the building in particular and Bristol in general.
Buses were pristine and very very frequent even though the roads and roundabouts near or in town were heavily disrupted with roadworks.
I was impressed by both the people and the areas I saw. 10/10.

Gabriella Sounds lovely, glad you enjoyed your visits to the city.

It is somewhat different if you live in one of the suburbs (Clifton is fairly central). Getting to one of the many festivals and events happening centrally is difficult, as buses are expensive and unreliable, parking is very expensive if you can find a space. Millenium Square is lovely but just a short stroll brings you to the city centre which has been ruined by various councils.

Having said that the natives are friendly