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Can any retired nurses out there answer this query?

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Anja Sun 13-Oct-19 11:22:16

I’ve just started writing another book and despite searching on line I cannot get a definitive answer to this...

My main character is a nurse who started her training aged 20 in about 1970. For reasons that are too complicated to go into I need to know what minimum entry qualifications she would have needed for the SRN course in those days. In the UK.

I’m hoping that there are some on this forum that can help because I’m going cross-eyed trying to wade through various NHS histories and not getting anywhere.

I know I find it irritating when reading a book and there are factual inaccuracies.

RosieandherMaw Tue 27-May-25 16:45:15

Not sure Anja is still with us.
Anya sadly isn’t.
(Old thread)

Aveline Tue 27-May-25 16:40:25

Just a thought but should the OP be writing about something she doesn't know about? There will be more that qualifications to trip her up.

SusieB50 Tue 27-May-25 15:09:35

Alexa

SilverLining, looking back to late 1940s it's terrible the level of responsibility allocated to comparatively inexperienced girls.

I trained as an SRN 68-71, and I needed 5 GCE’s We were left in charge of a ward once we were 2nd year students, at night and sometimes in the day . Awful to think of now and still scary, but it was very different as so many patients were convalescing (in 10 days for a gall bladder op!) Or in just for investigations so not so many very sick patients whereas today you are really sick if you’re in hospital.

Magenta8 Sun 25-May-25 14:53:52

I think entry qualifications varied. Officially you needed 5 O's including Maths and English and the more popular nurse training schools would insist on this as a minimum.

Correspondingly the less popular schools would be more accommodating. Cadet training and voluntary work in hospitals could be taken into account also having relatives 'in the trade' especially if they were doctors.

loopyloo Sun 25-May-25 14:49:58

I think it depended largely on which hospital you were applying to.

Reubenblue Sun 25-May-25 14:42:44

I started on that path in 1970 at age sixteen, you could join with three GCSE’s and do two years as a cadet nurse until age 18, it was an invaluable grounding, rotating around all hospital departments. Perhaps far more useful than university.

Aitchs12 Sun 25-May-25 14:31:13

I recognize that this question was asked in 2019 and its now years later.
However, if it is still of interest I started RN training in 1969 in Edinburgh at Royal Infirmary.
I would be happy to to provide further info if you wish to contact me.

Alexa Tue 15-Oct-19 01:36:44

SilverLining, looking back to late 1940s it's terrible the level of responsibility allocated to comparatively inexperienced girls.

Alexa Tue 15-Oct-19 01:32:07

1980s I taught Scottish Higher English to school leavers who would not have been admitted without higher English.Scottish Highers equivalent then to A-level in England.

pinkquartz Mon 14-Oct-19 23:42:02

wrong symbol wink

pinkquartz Mon 14-Oct-19 23:41:31

coolgran65 thank you for explaining....it is a very bad habit of mine to go off tangent . I do it IRL too.
I will try to curb it though in this instance there has been provocation. I will try hard not to do it again grin

pinkquartz Mon 14-Oct-19 23:39:43

Nannarose I accept you want to defend modern nurses but I have seen and heard very distressing incidents in recent times.
Not to me but to the women in the ward of just 4 . It was in 2 cases out and out nasty bullying.
Also I had to listen to a woman being reduced to tears at night by two nurses. There was no need and if I hadn't been wheeled into theatre early next morning I would have complained. I have never forgotten and I feel bad I could not help the poor woman

Also my friend in the hospital has had 10 years to watch certain standards of behaviour change.
Of course there are still wonderful nurses....my own recent experience was good...but it doesn't change my mind.
Sadly my poor health over many decades means I have seen and heard too much really.

I am grateful we have the NHS but I still think nurses should be more about vocation than university degree.

Nannarose Mon 14-Oct-19 17:41:08

pinkquartz - I'm glad that part of your post was 'banter' but I have to defend modern nurses who, in my experience cope with a great deal.
I cannot refute any personal experience you have had,and am sorry if it was distressing. But would not like your comment about nurses being 'above the messes...' to be regarded as generally true.

Coolgran65 Mon 14-Oct-19 17:35:03

pinkquartz I think it means stay with the topic subject and don't get personal about the poster. smile

pinkquartz Mon 14-Oct-19 17:12:51

welbeck

wtf does play the ball not the man mean? never heard that before

pinkquartz Mon 14-Oct-19 17:12:01

welbeck note

i included a grin to signify some humour also known as banter
no tone was lowered, the named person will understand.

BlueBelle Mon 14-Oct-19 12:11:50

My daughter started nurse training in London in ‘85 and definitely needed GCEs she had both O and A level she trained as a SRN and a few years later a RMN so doubly qualified
I think between 69 s and 80 s a lot changed and changed again as now you need a degree I believe

Anja Mon 14-Oct-19 12:00:55

Will do Riverwalk ...it’s a bit dark and spooky though ? ?

silverlining48 Mon 14-Oct-19 10:10:15

My best friend started nurse training at 16 in 1963 directly on the ward. She had no qualifications but had enthusiasm and a caring nature. I do remember being a bit shocked that on her second day she was asked to give an elderly man a bath.

Riverwalk Mon 14-Oct-19 07:37:10

Sorry forgot to add, going with the majority - yes 5 O levels or entrance exam was the norm.

Riverwalk Mon 14-Oct-19 07:34:57

Suzette thank you for the cape reminder - I felt like a real nurse when I first put mine on, red straps crossed over at the front!

Do let us know when your book comes out Anja.

Anja Mon 14-Oct-19 07:33:14

No wonder I couldn’t find a definitive answer, it seems there were various routes into nursing in those days.

Thanks to all who contributed.

Anja Mon 14-Oct-19 07:31:00

Sorry RMN I meant.

Anja Mon 14-Oct-19 07:30:30

Minimoon was the SRM nurse training a 2 or 3 year course?,

welbeck Mon 14-Oct-19 00:42:43

no, you don't have to say it, pink.
that is not necessary, lowers the tone of an interesting slice of social history.
play the ball not the man.