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WeekendVisit Thu 28-Nov-19 13:59:35

There appears to be increasing substantial bad relations between generations on social media, generation Y seem to blame Brexit, high housing costs,the high care and pension tax burden, the environmental and financial difficulties on the W - Baby boomer generation rather than the older V generation. There is also an increasing appetite for associated death for the elderly amongst the younger generation.

Do you find this situation happening in real life or is it mainstream and social media lead during a time of reduced resources?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/27/climate-emergency-world-may-have-crossed-tipping-points

Gonegirl Thu 28-Nov-19 17:33:18

janeainsworth I hope you are not apologising for me madam. angry

WeekendVisit Thu 28-Nov-19 17:31:42

28Cherrytree59

My concern is that they are keen on assisted death legislation changes, so they can maximise their inheritance and reduce their caring responsibility and tax burdens.

Cherrytree59 Thu 28-Nov-19 17:28:45

Should clarify that I am only talking about those young adults who share the views as described by the OP.
hopefully not my GC's future thinking

Cherrytree59 Thu 28-Nov-19 17:24:01

Well I'm not sure if I am a Baby Boomer or not, born 1959.

I do know I am a Waspi and since my Daughter will probably have to work until about 70, she will like other parents be unable to provide child care, after school care, holiday care for her grandchildren.

I do hope that the millennium generation, when the time comes will not be asking the Baby Boomer
great grandparents for child care help or indeed help with mortgage deposits or inheritance.

WeekendVisit Thu 28-Nov-19 17:21:56

Most people in the UK prior to the world wars were CoE, atheism for example was not as mainstream as it is now.

In WW2 Germany - Bonhoeffer predicted the Western void we now live in, many ideologies competing to fill the Christian void and be the new dominant moral code.

Callistemon Thu 28-Nov-19 17:17:05

You don't generally get so many different labels, prior to WW2 most people shared a universal moral code.
That could be true, WV

WeekendVisit Thu 28-Nov-19 17:02:43

I just wanted to know if it's gone beyond SM into real life.

www.psychologytoday.com/za/blog/the-science-behind-behavior/201911/3-psychological-drawbacks-the-popularity-ok-boomer

It’s only a matter of time before an impatient teenager brushes off a frail person in a supermarket checkout line or a young manager humiliates an older subordinate, retorting “OK Boomer” just because they are old.

My children and I aren't impressed with this stuff, as the above states, it has potential to go beyond the SM original intent.

janeainsworth Thu 28-Nov-19 16:45:57

Weekendvisit I’m sorry that you have had some less than courteous replies to your OP.

I saw that ‘OKBoomer’ thread on Twitter and felt very sad about it.
But that is Social Media for you. People think they can hide behind their usernames and say things that if they wrote on paper to the editor of a print newspaper wouldn’t ever be published.
And it’s not just young people who do it either. I have seen just as much vitriol from Boomers themselves and people who belong to Generation X.

WeekendVisit Thu 28-Nov-19 16:27:41

It's not my plastic in the sea, I knew years ago that the UK was sending our rubbish abroad. I have been living as environmentally sensitive as I can for about twenty years, this stuff isn't new to me, you then get people new to this who a year ago were living like Prince Harry bossing the rest of us about, what's new is the panic and cult like behavior.

WeekendVisit Thu 28-Nov-19 16:23:37

This is going to get worse, I am giving up on some social media, I do not want someone who has no idea what it's like to be on a small income, who is not as fit mentally or physically as them telling me I am 'csncelled' as a human being and these people going batshit at people not buying bamboo toothbrushes, doing various sorting, recycling, purchasing approved by an ever changing set of acceptable rules.

It's like high throwaway on trend fashion has been replaced by high throwaway opinions, lifestyle choices and moral code.

Doodledog Thu 28-Nov-19 16:18:21

crystaltipps I wasn't 'bashing' vegans. I was saying that veganism is not the only way to save the planet. And where did I say that vegans were young?

This habit of dismissing people without listening (or reading) what they have to say is what I am talking about.

WeekendVisit Thu 28-Nov-19 16:15:56

I actually don't have a problem with adapting for climate change, I don't need well intended strident zealots telling me how to live according to their ideology, when they are young healthy and aren't well informed.

www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/28/eu-parliament-declares-climate-emergency

-Speaking to the Guardian before the vote, the Swedish meteorologist-turned Green MEP Pär Holmgren said other political groups hadn’t grasped the urgency of the climate crisis. “You could sum it up by saying: for the moment we are heading for 3C, which is of course better than 4C, but it’s far from well below 2C, aiming at 1.5 degrees which we have promised to each other, to future generations.”-

-Separately, the Climate Action Network, a coalition of 1,700 NGOS, warned that member states would have to overachieve on the EU’s existing 2030 carbon target to keep on track with the Paris climate agreement.-

CoolioC Thu 28-Nov-19 16:12:15

Listening to Jeremy Vine the other day regarding Waspis, they had a 28 year old, who asked why she and her children should pay for these people! Whilst I had to agree with the lady who thought she was only given 2 years notice it was actually bought in in 1995 through the back door and possibly on a slow news day. I digress, I wondered if the 28 year old was a bit dim. Who did she think was paying for her children’s free books, benefit or was she so pious that she bought her own and didn’t take the benefit. generation spoilt and had it all.

WeekendVisit Thu 28-Nov-19 16:06:56

smile

Summerlove Thu 28-Nov-19 16:04:25

weekendvisit

Comments like this I wonder what quasi religion the next generation will come up with, that will make the current Millennials on trend moral code and ideology become uncool. smile Certainly won’t help bring generations together

If you don’t want to be dismissed because of your generation, don’t dismiss a different generation. It seems like common sense.

WeekendVisit Thu 28-Nov-19 16:01:32

I wonder what quasi religion the next generation will come up with, that will make the current Millennials on trend moral code and ideology become uncool. smile

MissAdventure Thu 28-Nov-19 15:57:21

hmm

WeekendVisit Thu 28-Nov-19 15:55:46

45crystaltipps

Your moral code is different to the moral code of doodledog.

Generation sensible - Z will have a different moral code from generation Y - Millennials who are very loud at present.

You don't generally get so many different labels, prior to WW2 most people shared a universal moral code.

Now we have chaos as strident zealots from each new ideology tries to convert, recruit and promote their quasi religion without redemption and ideology, whatever it may be.

Summerlove Thu 28-Nov-19 15:52:28

I think a lot of the “ok boomer” Bit has to do with the way that the boomer generation has been treating the millennial generation for years on the whole by calling them snowflakes and lazy. This seems to be a reactionary response to that.

Also, to be fair, it’s not the millennial fault that the world is in the shape that it is in. Were they brought up to be rampant consumers using plastic? yes. But we need to look at who brought them up. It was Gen X and the Younger boomers. They were the groups that started all of that for them.

I think we all just need to start changing our ways and doing our part to attempt to fix the environment

MissAdventure Thu 28-Nov-19 15:51:29

It takes bit of doing, to eat a whole leg!

crystaltipps Thu 28-Nov-19 15:45:41

doodledog another vegan bash - you are being a bit pot/ kettle by your dismissive tone- I am 70 and vegan - they aren’t all young. Perhaps before bashing vegans you could take on board the fact that meat eating is more damaging in terms of carbon emissions than all forms of transport put together. Eating.a leg of lamb is equivalent to a long haul flight, so perhaps your vegan yoga teacher isn’t as hypocritical as those who criticise her.

Callistemon Thu 28-Nov-19 15:37:19

Who is going to take responsibility for fostering good relations?

You?

WeekendVisit Thu 28-Nov-19 15:34:18

smile

petra Thu 28-Nov-19 15:32:42

Weekendvisit
I think you need to mix more with young people who have a pulse.

WeekendVisit Thu 28-Nov-19 15:32:21

Who is going to take responsibility for fostering good relations?

We have various movements and lobbyists promoting their own particular interests when there are few resources.

It seems to be a 'thing' now, to not be at all concerned for yourself, only your grandchildren and children.

There are many ideologies competing and many people living by new on trend social rules according to their group (Millennial who is ER, Vegan and LGBTQ+ for instance will have a different moral code to someone who follows the traditional Christianity and it's Greatest commandments were the social rules.