Broadening the appeal of the Lake District

YHA Breaks Programmes and Family Support Programmes
Family Holiday Grants
Calvert Trust and Bendrigg Lodge

Are useful contacts

Not wriggling in the slightest..

Reiterating what was posted on here.

Where did the y come from?

i am surprised that so few posters on here seem to grasp what this news story is really about; perhaps they don't want to, and perhaps that complacency is part of the problem.
it is a national park, so it receives funding as a national asset.
I guess most uk visitors are white, middle class, agile. suburbanites. that leaves out vast swathes of the population.
it is only right and proper to try to attract a wider group, by publicity and improved facilities, and maybe inner-city partnership schemes esp for children, many of whom never get a holiday.

wriggle away.

I said that as a result of the other posts which I had read on this thread.

It was not wrong and I am not wriggling out of anything.

You, on the other hand, are trying to turn it into an argument.

Where did the y come from btw?l

Callistemon, no I didn't miss anything at all.

You said something which was wrong and then tried to wriggle out of it.

You said this Are some of you saying that ethnic minorities are poor and disadvantaged, that is why they do not visit National Parks?

Then you changed it to the OP, Richard Leafe.

Building reg approval "accessible" toilets are just wheelchair accessible. But only for some wheelchair users: only if they have the independance and upper body strength and pivot ability to transfer onto the toilet.

That excludes many if not most wheelchair users. As well as people who can walk but are incontinent in ways they cannot manage alone.

Its not "open to everyone" its just than non middle class and above able bodied people dont want to go there!

You either like it or not.
And how will you know that if you can't afford to go there. Or if you can't be taken there because there is nowhere along the way to/from scenic spots for your carers to assist you with toileting?

inkcog read the OP again - overwhelmingly ........ white people

Perhaps you missed that bit.

It means that if you want a piece of the funding to revamp your facilities, you need to show that you are doing more than the minimum requirements and have put some actual thought into inclusivity.

It means looking at the routes and making sure there are changing places along loop routes. This does not mean extra buildings. It means rethinking existing facilities.

It means offering subsidies for non feepaying school groups. Partnership projects. And so on

There is only one lake.
I don't know how anyone can broaden the appeal of somewhere like the Lake District.
It is the natural beauty of the place which appeals.
You either like it or not.

notonan talked about prices going up and thus preventing people who used to use the Park being unable to enjoy it.

Nobody mentioned members of the BAM communities being too poor to use the park.

It's the well off able bodied visitors who clog up the roads with half empty cars!

The kind of things that make an area more inclusive dont attract more of the "worst offenders" of any of that!

inclusive enterprises

What does that mean please?

It is a National Park, mainly countryside with some overcrowded towns with disabled facilities.

Clogging up the narrow routes with yet more cars is not going to help the environment, the flora and fauna.

No it wasn't inferred at all.

The last time we went it was being ruined by too many visitors. Including tourist buses on the narrow roads.

Weren't you one of these people?

the park's visitors are overwhelmingly older, able bodied *white people*

they used to be cheap
camping and hostel prices going up and up
it's all become aimed at the higher end

I think that has been inferred inkcog.

What a pity.

Nobody is saying that.

Diversity also includes physical ability and people from less affluent areas.

There is a huge class divide when it comes to where people from the UK "staycation".

And this particular piece of funding has to be spent in ways that doesnt just benefit the types of people whl can already benefit from visiting the area.

The funding is optional.

Take it or leave it. But if they take it they have to spend it on inclusive enterprises.

Whats so wrong with that?

I would say litter is not a big problem in the Lakes. Most people are very respectful of the countryside.Premier Inn are hoping to come to Keswick.Although you pay for accommodation and food, entertainment ( walking) is free.

Anniebach don't mention the Brecon Beacons !

Are some of you saying that ethnic minorities are poor and disadvantaged, that is why they do not visit National Parks?

Absolutely nobody has said that.

I can hardly believe this .
I agree withBradfordlass and others. The area covered by the Lake District is relatively small. We've spent many holidays there, but not recently. Mostly holiday cottages, and Youth Hostels. Some backpacking too.
The last time we went it was being ruined by too many visitors. Including tourist buses on the narrow roads.
That was in the '90s, when we changed to the Scottish Highlands. Which will no doubt get the same treatment soon.

Are some of you saying that ethnic minorities are poor and disadvantaged, that is why they do not visit National Parks?

Because that is not necessarily correct.
In fact is is very non-pc.

Most "disabled" toilets tick a box but are totally unsuitable for many people with disabilities.

Changing places are actually usable. Not just for the venue to check off building regs/planning permission.

www.changing-places.org/