I agree with Lemongrove, Maddyone and Eazybee.
I feel she is a bit of a fake and very manipulative. I wish Harry had someone who would put him first, and really care about him, above all else.
I hope their new life works out well for them, but I'm doubtful. I think it will be what she wants, but he may be a bit adrift. I think he will miss many aspects of country life in the UK. I know he hates the press, but I'm not sure he will avoid it there either, especially as Meghan loves to be in the spotlight. I think they may choose not to have more children now, as she will be busy forging a new career.
Hopefully it can all be resolved soon and I do hope they both end up happier.
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(1001 Posts)After looking at all the news reports etc I have come to the conclusion that Harry is really stuck in the middle of his wife and the RF. Meghan married Harry very quickly, which can cause difficulties in ‘normal’ families, but with the emotionally constipated RF it was a disaster waiting to happen. If someone like Diana, who had experience of royalty couldn’t cope with the way of life or the hold the courtiers have over proceedings, how could a feisty American. Catherine has only managed it because she and William took a very long time to get her settled into the RF.
Moving to a new country, getting married, having a baby and trying to fit into the RF is a heavy burden, and then being bullied completely by the press is enough to make anyone crack. The daily mail is still dredging up anyone they can to slate Meghan and Harry.
Harry is trying to protect his wife, and according to recent reports, has tried to initiate changes but has been rebuffed at every stage. I would think that seeing the photos on the Queen’s desk didn’t show him or Meghan or their son was hurtful and an indication that they no longer counted. The further photos of the 4 reigning/next in line would surely have pushed home that point.
Harry has slumped down the line of succession, the same thing that happened to Andrew, Anne and Edward. But they had each other to share this change of status and that surely made matters easier.
I think Harry feels very alone and impotent and is trying very hard to change things for his wife, but has had to make a huge fuss to get anyone to listen. If you add in his own personal problems then I am very surprised that he is still trying to go forward instead of just giving up. Perhaps now the RF will abandon their stiff upper lip and treat Harry better than they did Diana.
Sorry for long waffle.
Somehow I feel Harry has been bewitched by Megan and feel so very sorry for the Queen. She doesn't need all this upset at her age, her loyalty to this country is second to none.
Just replying to your post Bridgeit
‘If you lie down with pigs you get covered in muck’. You never
heard this ?
Well you can’t get lower than that comment Annibach. How sad & disappointing
If you lie with pigs you get s**t.
She has especially gained all the S- -t that goes with it?
The Globe newspaper in Canada isn’t too keen on Harry & Meghan living there part time.
Since Harry married her he moved from Kensington Palace to
the quite isolated Frogmore.
Gave up shooting which he has done from a youngster and loved it, Diana called her two sons ‘the bloody Wales’s’ because
they loved hunting and shooting.
Now he has left his extended family and his country.
He has given up everything, she has gained all .
Lucy, I don’t think even the Royal Family know how this charity work on behalf of the Queen will be managed. Someone up thread suggested that work on behalf on the Queen will gradually be dropped.
Lucywinter, I didn’t know that her assistant requested yesterdays visit. I was surprised, I thought that she would have had enough common decency to lie low, especially while Harry is still over here, and performing a royal duty today.
Lemongrove, I think you’re right. The public loved the ‘happy ever after’ marriage for Harry. After losing his mother, his service in the armed forces, his cheeky chappy demeanour, but his sad love life as two girlfriends decided royal life wasn’t for them, he appeared to have found his soulmate, a beautiful, confident young woman, who wouldn’t be fazed by public life.
I started to think things were a bit strange round about the time of the wedding. The way she treated her father, with only one member of her family attending the wedding. As far as I’m concerned, that is just strange. One of my children didn’t want a traditional wedding, so they went abroad, just the two of them, and we saw the photos afterwards. I was sad, but accepted their decision, because that was what they wanted. We had already had two beautiful and traditional weddings the year before, so I considered myself lucky to have seen two of my children get married, and all three had the weddings they wanted. But Meghan didn’t want a quiet wedding far away from everyone, she wanted her mother there and a shedload of tacky, tinsel town celebrities. Nonetheless the crowd cheered and pretty much the whole country watched on television. The British people had taken Meghan to their hearts.
Now, having observed how it has all played out, I think Meghan wasn’t a good choice for him. I can’t imagine that Harry thought he’d have to give up his family, heritage, and his country less than two years later and he’d have to take refuge in a foreign country. Judging by some of the links I’ve seen, the Canadian people aren’t overjoyed that they have chosen to live there. Of course responses have been mixed, but a majority are worried about the financial implications. Plus it’s illegal to hold any title in Canada, so I’m not sure how that will pan out. Will their titles simply be ignored? Who knows!
Anyway, judging by photos released yesterday, Meghan is extremely happy, grinning broadly straight at the camera (the press) and posing for a photo with at the women’s refuge she visited (more press) which SkyNews reported she must have signed her agreement to. Talk about rubbing the British people’s nose in it!
I don't understand how their charity work will be managed in Canada. Will they still be doing it on behalf of the Queen? Totally
about it all.
She wasn't actually invited to visit those groups. Her 'assistant' requested it.
Perhaps she's bored.
I think Prince Harry will discover that his life is not quite as comfortable now as it once was. He has made no secret of his loathing of the press, and they are now revealing actions which they previously concealed, such as his frequent rudeness to them, his idleness and his use of his position to tout for work, that is, money.
He may take to life in Canada as a duck to water, and I hope that he does, because I think he will be gently 'let go' from the royal family as the scales are falling from the eyes of indignant taxpayers. They don't like the royal family being used for commercial purposes, and I doubt if the 'Sussex' brand will last long. As for his wife, she will continue to do as she pleases. How long he remains part of her life is dependent, in my opinion based solely on observation of her behaviour past and present, on his ability to fund the extravagant lifestyle to which she has very quickly accustomed herself.
It was the general public, sadly, who put the abuse about her online, not the press. www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/exclusive-hundreds-of-racist-and-sexist-tweets-posted-about-meghan-markle-following-announcement-to-quit-royal-family_uk_5e1f3372c5b63211760c766b
Were we always this bad as a nation? Has social media brought it out?
I see Meghan has visited another women's group in Vancouver to discuss, 'climate justice for girls.'
Eh?
I think many people here ( the UK) thought there was something ‘off’ about MM with regards to her list of wedding guests.....how many were family or old friends from before acting days? One member of the family and perhaps that was it.It just rang an alarm bell.
After that, things went downhill, the lack of wanting to share anything at all with the public, including new baby Archie, or making announcements that there wouldn't be any announcements etc.
I think Harry has married somebody entirely wrong for him, although it seemed (at first) a good choice, somebody not too young, American (and confident we thought) who had been married before and was used to being stared at in public.
Who knows what will happen in the future for them, but whatever it is will obviously be done entirely on her own terms.
GracesG Don’t worry about it. I read through but couldn’t work out what you meant and thought no more of it. When using my phone to post I’m always making errors 
What a brilliant idea for a thread, eebeew
Go for it!
GracesG. I took it to be an error and as it included a couple of my posts was initially perplexed.Absolutely no offence taken!
Yehbutnobut yes maybe but I think I’ll leave it to someone else to start!
ok merlot - I confess to a sohf and will now take the dogs out, despite the awful weather, still a jolly outing. Maybe in truth, I'm like Princess A and Her Maj. Give me a spaniel or three and a bomb proof pony now I'm older and I'm happy.
It was, what in my world and life, is called an "error". I am so appreciative of the fact that in the world and lives of so many of you no error can be forgiven; that the person making the erroneous step must be hung, drawn and quartered publicly or, you believe, "our people" will be seen as being too soft and errors will be repeated. So I asked for it to be removed as quickly as possible, before too many, I hoped, were offended by it.
That deserves a thread of its own eebeew
Not really a question but wondering what he would be advised in his circumstances given his daughter has gone no contact.
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