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After looking at all the news reports etc I have come to the conclusion that Harry is really stuck in the middle of his wife and the RF. Meghan married Harry very quickly, which can cause difficulties in ‘normal’ families, but with the emotionally constipated RF it was a disaster waiting to happen. If someone like Diana, who had experience of royalty couldn’t cope with the way of life or the hold the courtiers have over proceedings, how could a feisty American. Catherine has only managed it because she and William took a very long time to get her settled into the RF.
Moving to a new country, getting married, having a baby and trying to fit into the RF is a heavy burden, and then being bullied completely by the press is enough to make anyone crack. The daily mail is still dredging up anyone they can to slate Meghan and Harry.
Harry is trying to protect his wife, and according to recent reports, has tried to initiate changes but has been rebuffed at every stage. I would think that seeing the photos on the Queen’s desk didn’t show him or Meghan or their son was hurtful and an indication that they no longer counted. The further photos of the 4 reigning/next in line would surely have pushed home that point.
Harry has slumped down the line of succession, the same thing that happened to Andrew, Anne and Edward. But they had each other to share this change of status and that surely made matters easier.
I think Harry feels very alone and impotent and is trying very hard to change things for his wife, but has had to make a huge fuss to get anyone to listen. If you add in his own personal problems then I am very surprised that he is still trying to go forward instead of just giving up. Perhaps now the RF will abandon their stiff upper lip and treat Harry better than they did Diana.
Sorry for long waffle.
The readers comments on this Canadian newspaper article make interesting reading! Scroll to the bottom of the news report.
www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-canada-us-royals-security-costs-1.5399933
Sparkii, if the thread is boring you or you don’t like it, why don’t you read another thread? That’s what I do if a thread doesn’t interest me.
It could be sparkii but so what if it is? 
No one is being forced into reading/posting are they?
To clarify I'm not castigating MM for not taking Archie to the refuge.Of course she wouldn't take him.Just surprised on the day of K +Ws very public first appearance since all this broke last week Meghan is also featured in papers on this visit.I would have just thought she would lie low for a few more days and enjoy some privacy.Only saying.Wish I hadn't!
Do youthink this may be borderi ng on obsession?
Camilla makes frequent visits to women’s refuges, never mention in the press.
Isn't tomorrow Harry's last gig before he leaves for Canada?
A mother visiting to a women's refuge, leaves her young baby at home and is castigated.
I have a lot of respect for Kate and William and I would not expect her to carry out visits with her children in tow!
I don't have much sympathy for either Harry or Meghan to be honest; they seem to me to be a pair of self obsessed, publicity seeking twits. However, I do feel a modicum of sympathy for Harry because he was left on his own to sort everything out with his family when Meghan decided that she wouldn't be taking part in the discussions via telephone afterall. He looks wretched and tired; she looks happy and bouyant as she sets off on yet another ecology busting plane journey more hypocrisy.
I'm perplexed as to why, if this thread upsets and disturbs Sooziewoozie so much, why keep coming back to it just so that you can spit vitriol and insults at those who do want to discuss it? It seems masochistic to me.
Oh for gods sake grow up (some of you). 1) It's a couple of people you've never met. 2) Stop bl**dy bickering! It's like listening to a bunch of 15 year olds. Pathetic!
Apparently there's one from Harry as well, Annie.
Don’t know if this is true - it’s reported the Mail has text messages from Megan to her father before the wedding. The
Mail has them as part of their defence .
Wish she would stop the proceedings now.
I disagree.... I think Meghan has serious issues...she’s not a happy person... I’m not an ardent royalist but I have the greatest respect for the queen...and the way these two,have disrespected her has shocked me...I can’t see a happy ever after here.
Hypocrisy rules. Disgusting to claim being mistaken for a lesbian is akin to a vile insult coming from someone residing in the gutter. Holier than thou until the mask momentarily slips methinks.
It just occurred to me that whilst K+W make a joint appearance in Bradford for the first time since all this kicked off Meghan has popped on a seaplane without Archie and to pay a visit to a women's refuge and a nice smiley photo.Is that a coincidence?Disclaimer -that's not hatred just a question.And a realisation that I'm definitely over thinking all this !
“By using the word crush Annie is clearly implying I have lesbian tendencies. It’s not so much scraping the bottom of the barrel as wallowing in the gutter.”
I can’t read that any other way.
Then there’s the additional comment that it’s an insult to suggest that someone is a lesbian.
Like I said People give themselves away with the offguard comment.
I’m surprised you’re ok with that sparkii
Harry
Autocorrect again!!
Harey looked extremely happy when he was in Canada pictured holding Archie.
He may look unhappy and anxious in public because he could see the rest of his life unfolding in front of him and didn't like the prospect.
Oh and was it Catherines 8th Birthday or something? Did the jelly and ice cream get spoiled?
Harry doesn't look as happy these days. There is a definite difference. Of course he is now a married man with a child, but it's as though he has the weight of the world on his shoulders. Such a shame.
Is a crush some sort of code for being gay?
Why is quietly mentioning a pregnancy ( which was beginning to show and was under scrutiny from the press) a bitch thing to do?
Where does Suzie say lesbians belong in the gutter?
This is so hilarious really.
Souziewouzie
You ask i wonder how the adult children, especially dear daughters of the Megan haters on here would think of their dear mothers if they were outed
First of all I'm not a Megan 'hater' ( horrible word)
Second. My daughter feels just as I do as do many of her friends.
Third. I'm far more outspoken in private than I am on here.
How do you feel sparkii about the posting that says a comment (crush) which might be taken as implying that someone is a lesbian is to be “wallowing in the sewer”.
It’s those off-guard , hasty comments that really reveal a person’s thinking.
I do think it was really offensive and even suziewoozie knew it because she hastily posted a I didn’t mean that qualifier. But what was posted first was the real thought and feeling.
I'm certainly not a Meghan hater; I don't hate anyone. I do, however, have reservations about some of her behaviour, the most concerning to me, was her treatment of her father. My opinion of her went downhill after that. She may very well be a lovely, considerate, thoughtful person and just be the victim of terrible advisors - who knows? I am sure time will tell.
But if they had ExD1938. There wouldn’t have been media interest .
They must be really upset now
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