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I feel sorry for Prince Harry

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Artdecogran Sun 12-Jan-20 12:00:22

After looking at all the news reports etc I have come to the conclusion that Harry is really stuck in the middle of his wife and the RF. Meghan married Harry very quickly, which can cause difficulties in ‘normal’ families, but with the emotionally constipated RF it was a disaster waiting to happen. If someone like Diana, who had experience of royalty couldn’t cope with the way of life or the hold the courtiers have over proceedings, how could a feisty American. Catherine has only managed it because she and William took a very long time to get her settled into the RF.
Moving to a new country, getting married, having a baby and trying to fit into the RF is a heavy burden, and then being bullied completely by the press is enough to make anyone crack. The daily mail is still dredging up anyone they can to slate Meghan and Harry.
Harry is trying to protect his wife, and according to recent reports, has tried to initiate changes but has been rebuffed at every stage. I would think that seeing the photos on the Queen’s desk didn’t show him or Meghan or their son was hurtful and an indication that they no longer counted. The further photos of the 4 reigning/next in line would surely have pushed home that point.
Harry has slumped down the line of succession, the same thing that happened to Andrew, Anne and Edward. But they had each other to share this change of status and that surely made matters easier.
I think Harry feels very alone and impotent and is trying very hard to change things for his wife, but has had to make a huge fuss to get anyone to listen. If you add in his own personal problems then I am very surprised that he is still trying to go forward instead of just giving up. Perhaps now the RF will abandon their stiff upper lip and treat Harry better than they did Diana.
Sorry for long waffle.

maddyone Wed 15-Jan-20 14:15:48

Catherine’s birthday is a bit of a red herring really. H+M may or may not have released the statement on the eve of her birthday to upstage her, rather like the announcement of her pregnancy at Eugenie’s wedding, but it’s my opinion that they released it then deliberately to be in front of the other big news, the court case in which the court released some documentation appertaining to Meghan and her father yesterday.
I think it was disgracefully rude to release it before proper discussion with the Queen and Prince Charles had taken place, but probably Meghan wanted to be sure that they wouldn’t persuade Harry to behave differently.

hollysteers Wed 15-Jan-20 14:05:46

I have little sympathy with the birthday moaning for a mature woman who, guess what, has one every year!
Do you all make such a terrific fuss over your birthday?

Anniebach Wed 15-Jan-20 14:05:20

William’s support for mental illness is to be respected, he was
so young, Diana said he use to shove tissues under her door
when he heard her crying.

hollysteers Wed 15-Jan-20 14:02:42

eazybee, you are referring to reigning monarchs, Prince Harry is now of no import in this respect.

maddyone Wed 15-Jan-20 14:00:46

Hollysteers, easybee is correct, this is a big thing in the Royal family, and it will certainly be documented and go down in history.
I feel sure Catherine will not have had her birthday wrecked, she appears to be a well grounded young woman, with a loving and supportive family. I’m sure she will be supporting William through this awful mess. After all, he lost his mother and now he’s pretty much losing his brother, although I hope not.

Anniebach Wed 15-Jan-20 13:59:54

Harry’s mother caused her own anguish.

hollysteers Wed 15-Jan-20 13:57:26

I have no shame in owning up to the fact that this is my soap opera. I make a small monetary contribution to it and I enjoy its ups and downs, as all families have them. My mother enjoyed it too, being around the same age as the Queen.
People identify with different members, hence the young/old divide on this question. I don’t watch Coronation Street or Emmerdale; at least these are real people!
We don’t know everything about them do we? However, I agree with Charles, slim it down, do your duty like the Princess Royal, that’s your rent for being privileged RACHEL,
don’t read the tabloids and comments, rise above it, stick it out like Catherine and the Queen and we will respect you.
Seems simple doesn’t it? But sadly, not...

LadyJus Wed 15-Jan-20 13:51:10

I felt sorry for Harry and thought that it was admirable that he was trying to save his wife from the same anguish his mother went through - and then I discovered Harry (and William) participates in trophy hunting.
Any shred of sympathy has gone, he shot animals that have been chased to their deaths, scared, trapped and defenceless.. And the fact he's a president for an animal conservation charity? Hypocrite!

eazybee Wed 15-Jan-20 13:44:55

It won't be forgotten,hollysteers , look at all the references to Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson, and their subsequent life.
Or Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn, who was once the most notorious, and unpopular woman in England, and whom MM closely resembles.

merlotgran Wed 15-Jan-20 13:37:18

It might seem ridiculous, suziewoozie but Harry and Meghan deliberately chose Eugenie's wedding day to tell family members that Meghan was pregnant.

They didn't have to drop their latest bombshell on the eve of Kate's birthday.

Didn't wreck it though, I'm sure.

hollysteers Wed 15-Jan-20 13:35:36

The day the Queen passes, all this will be forgotten.
Everything passes.

suziewoozie Wed 15-Jan-20 13:32:05

Wrecking Kate’s birthday ??????? FGS

Jabberwok Wed 15-Jan-20 13:29:46

I so agree with you Annie. Wrecking Kate's birthday was selfish and thoughtless, never mind the rest of it!! Surely their news could have waited a couple of days?!
Of course they can go and do whatever they like but not at the expense of the tax payer wherever they end up!

Bridgeit Wed 15-Jan-20 13:25:26

Yes the amount of money spent is appalling , the only saving grace is that it is not dead money , it has provided income to a variety of industries involved with all aspects of the wedding.

pinkquartz Wed 15-Jan-20 13:24:02

I forgot to say that in the link I posted just above the Canadians do not want the Royal family to move there as a Royal Family.
It is very complicated how they ( Canada) are part of us and also not.

Bridgeit Wed 15-Jan-20 13:21:00

Ohhh..... you are naughty, SirChenjin , but I like you ......

pinkquartz Wed 15-Jan-20 13:20:00

I admire M for being strong, and she has had to work to get out of her messy family. I am not a fan though.

I can't reconcile our Austerity with her wedding.......too many people in need in UK.

I am happy that the RF is culled.
Perhaps they can begin to channel some of their wealth into helping the poor here.

I have learnt that there are members of the RF doing good.....but £23 million on a wedding was obscene.

SirChenjin Wed 15-Jan-20 13:19:41

*I see the Big Ben thread has been infiltrated by guess what . .?
Yes that’s correct Meghan Merkel*

Will she be empowering BB to chime once more?

tickingbird Wed 15-Jan-20 13:17:42

* The use of some language to describe other posters on this thread is truly disgusting*

Yes and all from the usual suspects. I’m sure there’s a joke in there somewhere.

“How do you get a woke, virtue signalling libtard to impersonate a 3yr old throwing a tantrum? Just disagree with them. Think Violet Elizabeth - “I’ll scream and I’ll scream.......”

Just joking ladies, lighten up grin

Bridgeit Wed 15-Jan-20 13:15:41

I see the Big Ben thread has been infiltrated by guess what . .?
Yes that’s correct Meghan Merkel ?

SirChenjin Wed 15-Jan-20 13:14:50

I don't understand who exactly is Meghan representing now

The Sussex Royal global brand - it's going to be the biggest and best global brand in the entire history of global brands grin

pinkquartz Wed 15-Jan-20 13:14:32

from Canadian newspaper. I put it on another thread but this thread is more popular:

www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-harry-and-meghan-and-why-members-of-the-royal-family-cant-live-in/

trisher Wed 15-Jan-20 13:13:17

I wonder who will fund her father's visit to Britain? Not the papers of course!!?
There is a difference between having your private life scrutinised and appearing to promote a charity.
So far as clothes go I think MM is well aware of how difficult it can be for some women. She is a patron of Smart Works which helps unemployed women with clothes for an interview, support and advice. smartworks.org.uk

Calendargirl Wed 15-Jan-20 13:09:01

Seems strange with all this going on, I can’t say I have seen any comments from Meghan’s half brother and sister, would have expected much commentary from them. Wonder why?

Bridgeit Wed 15-Jan-20 13:07:56

I’m sure they can all deal with it Annie. Many families go through ups & downs throughout the years, I believe that the love is there even if events are testing it a bit.

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