I feel sorry for Prince Harry

Calleistemon
I believe Camilla was of the same aristocratic "set" as Charles; a long association (sic) with each other.
Also, I wouldn't worry too much about the Queen and Philip; they have seen it all and survived. You get past worrying too much as you get very old.

Yes maddy she cut off from her mother over Khan and Fayed, she cut off from Jane because Jane was married to Robert Fellows the
Queens private secretary, she cut off from her brother because she wanted a house on his estate, he refused because
off press intrusion, she didn’t want to live there , just wanted
somewhere for a few days away .

Her older sister Sarah did act as a lady in waiting after the divorce but she got the boot too.

Yes of course Callistemon, that’s absolutely correct. I believe, though don’t know, that the Queen Mother had a large hand in getting Diana and Charles paired up. And you’re right again, he’s happy now with Camilla, but don’t forget that Camilla moved in aristocratic and royal circles, that’s why they met in the first place. She may not have been aristocratic but she enjoyed outdoors life, horse riding etc as a young woman.

Why does it mean you are a hater if you disagree with the way they have gone about this?
I for one loved their wedding, made my own mind up about any news reports! Although to be advocates of saving the planet then jumping on private planes is hypocrisy at its highest like the actress Emma Thompson. So having that attitude do as I say not as I do doesn't wash.
There is no way Meghan will be a stay at home mum she will go back to acting that is for sure.
The people I feel sorry for are the Queen and Prince Philip - has respecting our elders gone out of the window? 93 and 98.

maddyone Charles had to marry an aristocratic girl who understood royalty, although she wasn't exactly sporty.
That all ended in tears. He's happy now with his sporty non-aristocratic, divorcée wife.

This farce is exactly why royal marriages in the past were arranged H&M would never have been paired.

Totally agree jolbook. Why is it right wing to feel unsympathetic to H+M?
I feel sorry for Harry, what a difficult position he’s in.

I’m not sure I even knew Diana had cut off her family, maybe I’ve forgotten. Nonetheless the family were there for her boys after her death.

Why is it right-wing to be unsympathetic towards this couple?
There must be many on the "left" who feel let-down and disappointed in their behaviour.

I’d have taken the comment ‘......should have married one of his own kind’ to mean exactly what Easybee thought, an aristocratic, sporty girl who understands royalty. If he had done that, he might not have been in the position he’s in today. I feel sorry for him, he’s giving up his family, his country, his heritage, and the possibility of Archie knowing his wider family.

eazybee I had forgotten, Diana had cut off her family, she was brutal to her staff too, sacked Paul Burrell’s wife because she wanted to work less hours to have time with her young sons. The vicious verbal attack on Tiggy, this nearly ended up
in court.

I'm not sure that the current situation has arisen entirely because of racism from the press, but others may disagree. To me the fundamental problem seems to be that as a couple they don't have much to ground them in real life. I think much of Kate and William's great success can be directly attributed to the relationship with and great support they have from the Middleton family who, despite their wealth seem down to earth and discreet. Harry and Meghan don't seem to have that guiding light in their lives. It's a bit like the Emperor's New Clothes really. I do feel they have gone about this whole thing in the wrong way but they are not fundamentally bad people.
Learning to be parents is really tough and great wealth to hire help does not necessarily make that easier. Diana struggled in a similar way when William was born, no close family to guide and support. They have made some odd decisions, that's for sure.
The Queen's statement yesterday was a triumph of compassion and damage limitation.

may Harry and Meghan an d their son have a happy life in Canada

they gave up too soon. so much in 2 years to get t heirs round. should have stuck it out a bit more, as shows them as quitters. it is not what they did so much as how they did it.

have changed cultures twice. i know first hand one does not get used to a place, position, etc. overnight.

eazybee
That's exactly the way I would read that comment.
I believe Megan never had any intention of 'maintaining the pretence'

Agree with Maw B, Megan had no intention of staying here. This was never her plan. Feel sorry for Harry. I really think she will leave him when it suits her. What will he do then with regards seeing his baby. Megan will not let him go. It is her leverage.

I think Suzie, that it’s you who believes she knows it all and has all the answers. It would be polite of you to allow others their opinions, but it appears you don’t want to.
And you’re still coming across as angry.

"They have just unanimous agreed that Harry “should have married one of his own kind”.
No need to bite through your tongue.
I take this comment to mean a person who has grown up in Britain, comes from an aristocratic background, keen on sport and outdoor pursuits, and who understands the way in which the royal family lives and functions today. Yet the last person from the aristocracy to marry a royal was Lady Diana Spencer, who grew up practically next door, and that didn't end well.

It is obvious that Harry is besotted by Meghan, and it is obvious that it is not reciprocal. I did think that she, being an actress, although not in the Grace Kelly class, would be able to maintain the pretence and play her role to perfection.

Harry is not the only one with mental health issues caused by a dysfunctional family. Meghan has discarded her entire family, bar her mother, and very deliberately separated and isolated Harry from his. Diana was estranged from all her family, including her mother, before her death.

Irony maddy irony. As I’ve said, when the average post is just gossip based tabloid rubbish, it’s not hard to do better.

Happens often maddy joining a thread and waving a wooden spoon , it’s a game for some .

If you say so maddy then it must be a fact.

Suzie
‘.......intellectual discourse.’ ???
In all seriousness, is that what you think your contributions have been?
Rants and insults come more readily to mind.
Plus, Gaga often uses facts in her posts.

I think there’s a lot of hatred on this thread, really it’s very sad. No, not the so called ‘Meghan haters’ but actually those who seem to feel free to vent their anger
at the so called ‘Meghan haters.’

Why did no one consider Meghan being a stay at home mum? Harry could have continued with his duties and therefore kept his house and income, and Meghan could have kept a low profile, at least for a couple of years until she was more settled and the press had calmed down their excoriating attacks on her.

Actually the bar on here is pretty low tbf