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I feel sorry for Prince Harry

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Artdecogran Sun 12-Jan-20 12:00:22

After looking at all the news reports etc I have come to the conclusion that Harry is really stuck in the middle of his wife and the RF. Meghan married Harry very quickly, which can cause difficulties in ‘normal’ families, but with the emotionally constipated RF it was a disaster waiting to happen. If someone like Diana, who had experience of royalty couldn’t cope with the way of life or the hold the courtiers have over proceedings, how could a feisty American. Catherine has only managed it because she and William took a very long time to get her settled into the RF.
Moving to a new country, getting married, having a baby and trying to fit into the RF is a heavy burden, and then being bullied completely by the press is enough to make anyone crack. The daily mail is still dredging up anyone they can to slate Meghan and Harry.
Harry is trying to protect his wife, and according to recent reports, has tried to initiate changes but has been rebuffed at every stage. I would think that seeing the photos on the Queen’s desk didn’t show him or Meghan or their son was hurtful and an indication that they no longer counted. The further photos of the 4 reigning/next in line would surely have pushed home that point.
Harry has slumped down the line of succession, the same thing that happened to Andrew, Anne and Edward. But they had each other to share this change of status and that surely made matters easier.
I think Harry feels very alone and impotent and is trying very hard to change things for his wife, but has had to make a huge fuss to get anyone to listen. If you add in his own personal problems then I am very surprised that he is still trying to go forward instead of just giving up. Perhaps now the RF will abandon their stiff upper lip and treat Harry better than they did Diana.
Sorry for long waffle.

Jishere Tue 14-Jan-20 11:48:04

Have to write why is anyone a hater if they have a different opinion?
What about Harry's nan and grandad who are both in their 90s and have to deal with this?
The British press are a pain but they haven't hounded her no more than any other new Royal member although it was only a matter of time before estrangement with the father would come out. Danny Baker is the only one who was racislist whether he meant it or not and lost his job like he should.
Meghan likes attention but likes everything only on her terms and they have brought alot of criticism on themselves. Why make this anoucement a day before Kate's birthday?
Is it ok that they didn't spend Xmas together as Harry's grandad is poorly?
The British press can't be blamed for everything in fact most of the reports I've read is when they have been on duty.
Meghan wants to go back to being an actress she wants everything on her terms and if Harry is happy then good luck to them.
But there will be uproar if a good agreement isn't met and our taxes are used for their security or anything else.
They went to Canada House to thank them for their stay. I wonder if they thanked anyone for their 32million lovely wedding or for restoring their home. Everything is what suits them they are both intelligent.

Bridgeit Tue 14-Jan-20 11:47:34

Well done, keep biting, avoid a verbal punch up , try to enjoy your latte.

ladymuck Tue 14-Jan-20 11:47:21

Not in my case Bridgeit, I had my own reasons for marrying, but then I didn't have royal duties or obligations to consider.

(I call myself ladymuck because I have ideas above my station).

GrannyGravy13 Tue 14-Jan-20 11:47:12

Two out of our four ASs’ did not invite any Aunts, cousins or extended family.

Other two invited everyone.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 14-Jan-20 11:44:35

I am sitting having a latte and toasted tea cake whilst “mooching” round Lakeside. Next table are two ladies 60/70’s table next to them is a married couple (I assume) late 70’s.

They have just unanimous agreed that Harry “should have married one of his own kind”, I am in the process of biting my own tongue so hard I maybe going home via our minor injuries A&E.

Bridgeit Tue 14-Jan-20 11:43:23

Annibach it is not strange to some families, different but not necessarily strange. Not inviting some relatives can be a saving grace in many families.

Bridgeit Tue 14-Jan-20 11:40:40

Does anyone think the whole thing through LadyMuck ( interesting name by the way?)
That is the trickery of falling love, if we did we probably wouldn’t.

tickingbird Tue 14-Jan-20 11:40:14

Thank you sparkii. However, I defer to you on delightfulness - you are truly a gem grin

ladymuck Tue 14-Jan-20 11:35:36

I think the couple didn't think the whole thing through properly before they married. I have said previously that I thought the marriage was an act of defiance on Prince Harry's part.
'I can do as I please and you can't stop me', sort of action.
Now perhaps he is realising that he should have taken more notice of those who warned him not to be so hasty.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 14-Jan-20 11:31:00

trisher I totally agree with your post of 10.41 today.

Anniebach Tue 14-Jan-20 11:29:37

Something strange about a woman who doesn’t invite even one uncle, aunt, cousin to her wedding.

Pippa22 Tue 14-Jan-20 11:20:17

I am disgusted how this pair are behaving too. She being a bit part actress couldn’t have known how the royal family works but there must have been plenty of people to advise her. However it seems that she had her own agenda an Harry was like putty in her very experienced hands. I hope she loves him as much as he seems to love her but she dies seem like a woman who uses and then discards people. On another note Harry has one engagement and then nothing until May. After a long Christmas holiday he isn’t exactly a very hardworking royal is he ?

GagaJo Tue 14-Jan-20 11:13:22

That was 2014. A month ago (2019) they were featured and interviewed on BBC4 Radio 4.

Is that reliable enough for you?

Iam64 Tue 14-Jan-20 11:12:15

BuzzFeed unreliable - so similR to our own daily Mail

maddyone Tue 14-Jan-20 11:08:08

BuzzFeed News
An American Internet media, news and entertainment company.
In October 2014, a Pew Research Centre survey found that in the United States, BuzzFeed was viewed as an unreliable source by the majority of people.......

A quick Google search to find out who BuzzFeed are.

suziewoozie Tue 14-Jan-20 11:04:41

Dignified? She’s stayed in a job for at least 20 years past her best by date. After the Diana fiasco , she should have thought about the whole issue of succession planning in terms of the roles of those not in direct line and of slimming down. She’s supposed to be oh so wise but she’s clearly past it, is surrounded by useless advisors and the last 20:years has been wasted in terms of building a new look more relevant RF. but no- we get Andrew and Epstein ( and god knows what else is being hidden in that particular sorry saga) and now H and M.

As for the MM haterS ( and yes you are whatever you say) you must be royally fed up that M and H are almost certainly going to get the new life they want and the status, money, titles, privileges as part of it. You haters wanted her humiliated and preferably exiled without Archie to live a tacky life you could then sound years tutting about. Preferably of course with H back here heartbroken but free of the Evil One. Not getting you’re ‘told you so’s’ must be very upsetting

trisher Tue 14-Jan-20 10:41:45

Undoubtedly there is both racism and misogyny in the reports being made and the opinions being expressed about MM. The comparisons with Kate vividly illustrate the misogyny. MM was a successful careerwoman who apparently should completely allow her life to be taken over by the family she has married into (like good Kate has). If she has an opinion, if she wants to do something different, if she influences her husband or decides something for herself she is a BAD woman. It's so 19th century.
Incidentally younger siblings of the monarch were traditionally sent off to the colonies to act as Governor Generals etc. The Queen's children were the first not to do this. And of course it's no longer possible Look at the disaster that has been. H&M are looking for a new way through things. Give them a bloody chance.

gmarie Tue 14-Jan-20 10:41:27

Feel sorry for Meghan as well. In America many are upset at how she has been trashed in the British press. This evening Trevor Noah discussed the differences in treatment that Kate and Meghan have received. Here's a post showing some of the news headlines that he mentioned:

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal

Anniebach Tue 14-Jan-20 10:31:33

maddy you got it , dignity .

The Queens statement was dignified, the ‘we want it all’ brand
Sussex wasn’t.

JenniferEccles Tue 14-Jan-20 10:30:57

Unfortunately it’s a fact of life that some will interpret any criticism of a non white person as being driven by racism.

I repeat what I said yesterday.

Meghan is under attack for her behaviour since meeting and marrying Harry, and indeed before that.

The comments would be exactly the same if she was white.

maddyone Tue 14-Jan-20 10:29:45

Gaga, it’s how she comes across to me over the last day or two. Angry about some people having a different opinion about Meghan.

maddyone Tue 14-Jan-20 10:28:12

The American connection, yes, I agree with that Annie. And about the British not doing pushy, on the whole anyway. Note Catherine’s dignified behaviour during the time before she married William, not a single interview or comment to ANYONE. Despite the vile comments in the press. The first time we heard her voice was the engagement interview. On the other hand, when Meghan was going out with Harry, she gave an exclusive interview to an American magazine, can’t remember which one, and on the front of the magazine, the headline ‘I’m just wild about Harry.’ Then she arrived in Britain and announced she was going to hit the ground running. Dignified, no, I think not.

GagaJo Tue 14-Jan-20 10:26:23

Hahaha, where is susie angry, maddyone? Talk about constructing an alternative narrative!

You should all look at the international press and see what they think about the topic.

Or of course, stay in your little echo chambers.

sparkii Tue 14-Jan-20 10:26:10

Brits don’t do pushy

I think few do, maybe?

Anniebach Tue 14-Jan-20 10:26:07

True maddy Kate did have a job in London but was hounded by the press so worked for her parents company
instead. And her mother ? The press were vicious.

I can only recall one perfect royal , Shy Di, who was brilliant at
using the media.

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