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I feel sorry for Prince Harry

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Artdecogran Sun 12-Jan-20 12:00:22

After looking at all the news reports etc I have come to the conclusion that Harry is really stuck in the middle of his wife and the RF. Meghan married Harry very quickly, which can cause difficulties in ‘normal’ families, but with the emotionally constipated RF it was a disaster waiting to happen. If someone like Diana, who had experience of royalty couldn’t cope with the way of life or the hold the courtiers have over proceedings, how could a feisty American. Catherine has only managed it because she and William took a very long time to get her settled into the RF.
Moving to a new country, getting married, having a baby and trying to fit into the RF is a heavy burden, and then being bullied completely by the press is enough to make anyone crack. The daily mail is still dredging up anyone they can to slate Meghan and Harry.
Harry is trying to protect his wife, and according to recent reports, has tried to initiate changes but has been rebuffed at every stage. I would think that seeing the photos on the Queen’s desk didn’t show him or Meghan or their son was hurtful and an indication that they no longer counted. The further photos of the 4 reigning/next in line would surely have pushed home that point.
Harry has slumped down the line of succession, the same thing that happened to Andrew, Anne and Edward. But they had each other to share this change of status and that surely made matters easier.
I think Harry feels very alone and impotent and is trying very hard to change things for his wife, but has had to make a huge fuss to get anyone to listen. If you add in his own personal problems then I am very surprised that he is still trying to go forward instead of just giving up. Perhaps now the RF will abandon their stiff upper lip and treat Harry better than they did Diana.
Sorry for long waffle.

Anniebach Mon 13-Jan-20 17:08:21

Seems they are getting what they want , the Queen has made a statement

GagaJo Mon 13-Jan-20 17:01:28

Many, many racist attacks. A few below.

'(almost) straight outta Compton'

'exotic' DNA'

Danny Baker fired by BBC over royal baby chimp tweet

'Put your wokeness back to sleep'

'Forego silly tokenism'

'going from cotton slaves to royalty'

'Prince Harry a race traitor for marrying Meghan Markle.'
'banana baroness'

'like a monkey'

An image of Meghan on the Maggot Markle page has been edited to show her holding a joint of marijuana in her mouth, while another post shows a banana with the words "call your father" scrawled across it.

sparkii Mon 13-Jan-20 16:57:54

I think she tried, and failed and wanted out. H has wanted out for years.

Baggs Mon 13-Jan-20 16:55:41

I found this an interesting take on the situation, by Freddie Sayers.

GrannyLaine Mon 13-Jan-20 16:55:08

Totally agree suziewoozie and of no relevance whatsoever.

suziewoozie Mon 13-Jan-20 16:41:36

I think any speculation about his parentage is frankly bloody grubby whether you’re saying it was PC or not. Grown women, mothers and grandmothers even think it should be discussed. Yuk

tickingbird Mon 13-Jan-20 15:56:49

I’m also fed up of this nonsense regarding H’s parentage. He is Charles’ son. He actually looks likes D of E and Diana’s sister has red hair.

Anniebach Mon 13-Jan-20 15:56:30

Harry’s cousin

www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/190066046749339197/?lp=true

tickingbird Mon 13-Jan-20 15:54:26

I also notice that since being asked to provide examples of the racism directed at M and these nuances, certain posters have gone quiet.

tickingbird Mon 13-Jan-20 15:52:58

Cannot believe I am askingthis208

You can’t say that - you must be a racist you know. No one is allowed to have a negative opinion of the woman without being called out as a racist. However, I do agree that’s how it looks.

notanan2 Mon 13-Jan-20 15:52:17

and then being bullied completely by the press is enough to make anyone crack.

???
Most of the MM press I saw was gushingly flattering about her fashion choices
She had a relatively smooth ride press wise, no real nastiness or unkind nicknames

tickingbird Mon 13-Jan-20 15:49:20

Sorry doi v this on my phin

cannotbelieveiamaskingthis208 Mon 13-Jan-20 15:49:08

I am an American so you can take my comments with a grain of salt. I think Megan wants her cake and eat it too. She wants to be a part of the Royals but she wants none of the responsibility. She wants to do what she wants when she wants it. I thought they were so in love and wonderful when they married. I think Megan is showing her true, spoiled colors and that will strain any marriage.

tickingbird Mon 13-Jan-20 15:49:07

I notice there’s no

tiredoldwoman Mon 13-Jan-20 15:47:56

Was Harry's parentage ever proved who his Daddy really is ? That's bound to have affected his life and sense of belonging ? What if he gets a DNA test and it's proved that he's not Royal after all . ( He maybe knows already )

Calendargirl Mon 13-Jan-20 15:43:07

I’ve just watched their engagement interview on you tube. Just over two years ago, but my, how things have changed. It was all about team work, doing lots for the Commonwealth, the great love and respect for the Queen, how welcoming the Royal Family had been....
However, Harry did say that their relationship would always come first, which seems to be the case.
Let’s hope some sort of solution is found for all concerned.

Tedber Mon 13-Jan-20 15:31:48

Lots of opinions. Personally I think he should do what he wants BUT not with our money! He either gives up his royal title and sails off into the sunset or he doesn’t! Can’t dip in and out, accept the money and declare he wants his freedom! Wouldn’t we all love to be paid thousands, get priority treatment, mansions renovated and not have to work for it?

Anyway have they had “the meeting” yet? Things may have changed while I am waiting for a train ???

maddyone Mon 13-Jan-20 15:29:15

I cannot see why having a wife and child should make Harry less friendly with the press, or his brother, or indeed anyone. I cannot see why having a wife and child should make Harry not want to spend a weekend at Balmoral with his elderly grandparents, or spend Christmas at Sandringham with his father, brother, and grandparents.

KatyK Mon 13-Jan-20 15:14:45

has not had

KatyK Mon 13-Jan-20 15:14:10

I don't know. This man implied that he didn't like Meghan so could be blaming her when it's not her at all. Yes I agree, Harry had new responsibilities now.

Anniebach Mon 13-Jan-20 14:47:57

How does having a wife and child make him suddenly turn
from being friendly ?

Hetty58 Mon 13-Jan-20 14:26:44

KatyK, that doesn't mean that Magan's views caused the change. He was friendly with the press - but having the responsibility of a wife and child to consider, and protect, is a totally different situation.

25Avalon Mon 13-Jan-20 14:22:42

I too feel very sorry for Harry. He comes across to me as being very needy and at the moment Megan meets that need. I am concerned however that in future life with Megan in LA he may well be like a fish out of water, and back in his spare role. I just hope that she doesn't ditch him.

KatyK Mon 13-Jan-20 14:12:18

I've just seen an interview with a royal photographer who has known the princes since they were boys. He said Harry is lovely and very kind. He also said Harry never had a problem with the press. This man has travelled thousands of miles with Harry and said that at the end of tours, Harry would take members of the press out and foot the bill. He said that since he met Meghan he won't talk to, or even look at them. He was sad.

annodomini Mon 13-Jan-20 13:52:55

Apologies - I thought my first post about this had been lost and now I've found it.

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