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After looking at all the news reports etc I have come to the conclusion that Harry is really stuck in the middle of his wife and the RF. Meghan married Harry very quickly, which can cause difficulties in ‘normal’ families, but with the emotionally constipated RF it was a disaster waiting to happen. If someone like Diana, who had experience of royalty couldn’t cope with the way of life or the hold the courtiers have over proceedings, how could a feisty American. Catherine has only managed it because she and William took a very long time to get her settled into the RF.
Moving to a new country, getting married, having a baby and trying to fit into the RF is a heavy burden, and then being bullied completely by the press is enough to make anyone crack. The daily mail is still dredging up anyone they can to slate Meghan and Harry.
Harry is trying to protect his wife, and according to recent reports, has tried to initiate changes but has been rebuffed at every stage. I would think that seeing the photos on the Queen’s desk didn’t show him or Meghan or their son was hurtful and an indication that they no longer counted. The further photos of the 4 reigning/next in line would surely have pushed home that point.
Harry has slumped down the line of succession, the same thing that happened to Andrew, Anne and Edward. But they had each other to share this change of status and that surely made matters easier.
I think Harry feels very alone and impotent and is trying very hard to change things for his wife, but has had to make a huge fuss to get anyone to listen. If you add in his own personal problems then I am very surprised that he is still trying to go forward instead of just giving up. Perhaps now the RF will abandon their stiff upper lip and treat Harry better than they did Diana.
Sorry for long waffle.
Escape the bits he doesn’t like while holding his hand out for the bits he does.
sparkii There is nothing Christian about some of the gossip.
Judge not...
Oh my and yet you feel perfectly able to assert
Here's a comparison for you... Meghan and Andrew. One has held down a job, has recently given birth, has given it her best shot.....the other has sponged, lied, abandoned his wife, and oh is a paedophile.
I hold no brief for Andrew and think much of his behaviour has been abhorrent, but he has not been convicted of paedophilia and yet you seem to know more than the rest of us.........
How bizzare! 34 pages on Artdocogran's feeling sorry for Prince Harry! I'm quite sure he doesn't need our sympathy. I'm glad he's found a way to escape the worst of it, that's all.
Sparkii ! I have reported your post.
Sparkii
I'll tell you who the hell 'us' is. It's the British tax payer who contributes handsomely to Megan and Harry's life style.
I think should be aware that the legal age for sex in the uk is 16. It is alleged that the young woman who accuses him of having sex with her in this country was 17 at time.
Tickingbird, SirChenin, Pinkquartz, plenty of solid common sense and observations from all of you, I agree with what you have written. Sorry to lump you all together but I’ve only just caught up with this thread today.
Sparkii, a very wise warning from Eglantine. Perhaps you should request that your last post is removed.
Calling Catherine, the Duchess of Cambridge, calling her St Catherine in a most facetious way, this is true bike and nastiness. And this from a poster who is most indignant about other Granetters discussing H+M 
Careful sparkii what you’ve posted is libellous. A users name won’t protect you.
Paedophile my a**e!!
Particularly those Brits who possess excellent BS radars.
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Vegansrock
Cathrine never lied or tried to deceive us.
Megan tried ( and failed) to deceive us. She took us for fools and assumed we wouldn't see what a fraud she is. She obviously ? doesn't understand the British public as much as she thought she did.
vegansrock why do you have to be so nasty about Catherine? The snide St before her name doesn't help your argument at all, it's hardly her fault the press finally came round to her. She took enough jibes at the beginning.
Meghan (unlike Harry) loves the attention, easy to see. She would not be happy if ignored. I wish it would happen, a whole week with no photos of either of them.
I wonder who does own that luxury house they are staying in. And when they were offered it, I assume the owner was made aware it would be for a lot longer than the initial 6 week break.
If I was Canadian, I'd be a bit miffed to think they are just staying there as a convenient country next to her home. Then when Trump is no longer Present, they'll apparently move back to USA.
Exactly tickingbird. W & C seem to get on with their lives without feeling the need to empower anyone or delivering lectures to the plebs or growing their global brand. The majority of the other senior royals seem to recognise their enormous privilege and understand their role is to present awards and open hospital wings. It’s been said numerous times already - H and M want all the trappings of being royal and the fame and recognition that goes with it, but none of the responsibilities and constraints.
St Katherine doesn’t bang on about issues ie carbon footprints. She doesn’t write “you are loved” on a banana for a street prostitute who possibly isn’t loved by anyone and quite conceivably gets beat up and abused on a regular basis. It’s that type of playing to the camera that’s turned people against her. I’ve said it before, I don’t believe it’s the press or the People that have caused this. She doesn’t like royal life. It goes against the grain with her. I don’t have a problem with that as long as everything royal is left behind. I’d respect them then.
vegansrock
Catherine isn’t perfect, it used to irritate me how she always held her clutch bag timidly in front of her instead of at the side, striding out like Diana used to. But she is doing the job she married into. Supporting William and the Queen, but also she appears to be bringing her children up to enjoy a reasonably ‘normal’ life whilst accepting their royal heritage.
The pictures she takes of her children, then shown to the nation, are lovely. Letting us get a glimpse of their lives, but not too much.
I’m sure the Queen thinks she is doing an excellent job, and bitchy comments on GN are irrelevant.
suziewoozie Sun 12-Jan-20 12:43:55
Not another one??
I know what you mean but we don't HAVE to read or comment!
Diana and Kate were very young, Fergie was born into that kind of life but Meghan had a good life with plenty of money and freedom - she took a sniff, if wasn't what she'd expected so she left the job. Harry needed a strong woman to show him another way - She fits the bill perfectly. I do hope that they drop the HRH rather than trading on it - much respect if they do.
Catherine quietly gets on with life. She does what is required in her role and no more. No seeking sympathy on documentaries for her.
When St. Catherine beams for the camera it’s because she wants her photo taken? Or she no doubt nobly wants to publicise the charity. It’s funny when St Catherine gets her camera out and issues pics of the kids is it because she craves attention? Or just want to keep the fawning plebs happy? When she gets her outfits picked over it’s shock horror! Don’t criticise this perfect specimen of Englishness. I don’t wish either of them ill, but the one sidedness and hypocrisy is appalling.
Bridgeit I never said anything about you not belonging here. I asked you to stop policing the forum. If some of the comments offend you it’s best not to read them. It’s a topic that’s really got people going, not just on GN. Personally, I don’t think it’s down to racism, although there may be some racism. I’ve surprised myself to be honest because I’m not normally too fussed about the RF. I do like them but don’t particularly follow them. I think at the heart of it, it feels like an attack on us - OUR royal family. It’s aroused some collective sense of indignation. I wouldn’t even say it’s patriotism or nationalism. The Queen’s been there since before I was born and lots of people feel she, and therefore we, have been disrespected.
Calling the whole country racist (not you) really isn’t helping and once personal attacks on each other start to fly around, it only fans the flames.
Bridgeit I have no reason to make excuses for my posts on
this thread, why on earth do I need an excuse to join a conversation ?
Yes PV, a good observation. One week they can't take their hands off each other, the next they're apart for 2 weeks or so looking rather more happy than before.
I think some posters on here are out of touch with the workings of publicity in the modern world. MM has her own PR agents working at the double, it's all engineered and carefully selected. I for one am intrigued at how the machine works and if by criticising MM I am actually criticising her representatives then that is fair game.
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