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The Queen and Prince Andrew

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JonesKpj000 Mon 20-Jan-20 05:00:27

What are your views on a grinning Prince Andrew accompanying our Queen to church yesterday. Was this a mistake

Anniebach Tue 21-Jan-20 10:34:42

Obviously not Callistemon I never went every week, just when I needed to.

Callistemon Tue 21-Jan-20 10:32:03

No-one reads posts, Anniebach!

I have been but not for a long time - perhaps it's time I went again!

Only last year it was decided that the seal of the confessional should be upheld in the Church of England much against the wishes of Archbishop Sentamu.

Anniebach Tue 21-Jan-20 08:22:59

I have been to confession in the Church, in my own
home, and in priests homes, privately.

Callistemon Mon 20-Jan-20 23:38:21

Confession can be taken in private in the Anglican Church

Pixxie7 Mon 20-Jan-20 23:21:19

Mumagain@ actually in the high Church of England you can go to confession the difference is it is not done in private but publicly.

MrsHappy Mon 20-Jan-20 19:18:37

As far as I know, Andrew is not a pedophile. He obviously likes young women but that is not yet a crime. From news reports these young women were willing and over the age of consent. I think he has been vilified enough, can he not go to church anymore, or smile?

kwest Mon 20-Jan-20 18:00:20

A mother's love is consistent. Even if she hates the behaviour she will still love her child, regardless of age.

maddyone Mon 20-Jan-20 17:38:09

I couldn’t turn my back on my children either, or my grandchildren. Maybe sometimes some people forget that the Queen is a mother and a grandmother. She feels what we feel. Money and position don’t stop her from feeling the same human emotions that we all feel.

maddyone Mon 20-Jan-20 17:36:00

The trouble is Pinkquartz, that whatever you read, those on here who want to castigate either the royals or you, will just say that what you read is rubbish and you’re foolish for believing it.

grannie7 Mon 20-Jan-20 17:30:20

totally agree

Anniebach Mon 20-Jan-20 17:20:03

I couldn’t turn my back on my children. And I speak with
experience .

pinkquartz Mon 20-Jan-20 17:16:05

paddyanne

I don't know anything about the RF before the recent stuff
so I appreciate you telling me .
I can only comment on now cos that is all i know........
but isn't the point that since the TV interview we all know that Andrew has a seriously shady side?

I am going to do some more reading on the RF.....so I can be better informed.

Though if i remember right didn't the dirt on JS only come out after his death so it's not quite the same.
But I wouldn't be surprised if more shocks come out.....

JenniferEccles Mon 20-Jan-20 17:15:19

Even the Krays mother loved them!!

CarrieAnn Mon 20-Jan-20 17:13:14

What a dreadful thing to say,that the Queen should distance herself from Andrew,he is after all her son.He was going to church which even murderers are allowed to do.He has made dreadful decisions over the years,but I'm sure he is stillamuch loved me her of his family.Would any of you turn your back on a beloved child?if so you can't be very Christian.

Grandma70s Mon 20-Jan-20 17:05:41

I see nothing remotely strange about the Queen and her son going to church. We know very little about Andrew’s supposed misdemeanours, but even if they turn out to be serious there is still no reason why they shouldn’t go to church together.

At what point of bad behaviour does a mother disown her son?

Callistemon Mon 20-Jan-20 17:05:25

Yes, the Anglican church does offer confessional time, not just during a church service but with a priest.

It used to be offered in an confessional booth but it is more likely now that a priest will come to your home on request or offer somewhere appropriate to listen to your confessional.

There was dismay recently that the seal of the confessional was upheld against the wishes of some, including the Arch Bishop of York who believes that some incidents should be reported to the police.

Nvella Mon 20-Jan-20 16:47:39

Interesting the number of apologists for Prince Andrew and Prince Charles (whose behaviour in the the Bishop Peter Ball case - supporting and housing him AFTER he had been convicted of sexual attacks on young boys - was verging on the criminal.) But somehow Megan is still the most wicked.

sparkii Mon 20-Jan-20 16:31:43

Wow, well said. I feel sort of dirty for joining in. It's horrible.

absthame Mon 20-Jan-20 16:20:39

I am fed up with this holier than thou approach to the Windsors. I'm a Socialist, Republican and a Christian and am afronted by this nasty chatter in everyway possible. It really is time for some to adopt decent standards when expressing their nasty thoughts.

Anniebach Mon 20-Jan-20 16:07:22

Diana was a close friend of Saville, does this mean she knew ?

grannie7 Mon 20-Jan-20 16:05:22

So because Prince Charles met Jimmy Saville in the time he was a much loved star as he meets many people who may not be leading what the public feel is a Christian way of life secretly
How is Prince Charles supposed to act “Heard rumours about you so am going to ignore you and not shake your hand”

Just because someone had met/socially etc that makes them the same.
No one appeared to know or was prepared to talk about J Saville before he died, sorry forgot Prince Charles was introduced to him while on his Royal duties so of course P.Charles knew instantly he was a paedophile, so obviously became one.What utter rubbish.

Sukisaloo Mon 20-Jan-20 16:04:10

He perhaps had gone to Church to ask forgiveness for his sins?

Chaitriona Mon 20-Jan-20 15:30:46

Andrew didn’t seem to think that he had done anything very wrong and I doubt the royal family think so either. His friendships with these people were all some time ago and they were at several of the family parties, part of the circle. His family didn’t immediately reject Andrew at the time of his friend’s conviction and he continued with his royal life as usual. It has all only come to a head because of the publicity after the possible suicide and then reached crisis point with Andrew’s interview. It is more things being revealed and spoiling the public image of royalty than these things actually happening that gives concern to the palace. I am always amused by people who seem to know what the Queen is thinking and feeling. They project onto her what they would think and feel. But her life and her values, whatever they may be, will be unimaginably different from theirs.

sparkii Mon 20-Jan-20 15:13:26

I don't think Meghan and Harry spent years in the company of a well know paedophile did they?

sarahellenwhitney Mon 20-Jan-20 14:55:30

Why shouldn't P Andrew accompany his mother to church.?
What his nephew and spouse are subjecting the queen and the Duke of E far from well none of this can be doing his mother any good so to all those on their witch hunt leave the guy alone.