We are moving rapidly into La La Land here - what would happen if a man inadvertantly uttered the 'F' word in the office - would he have any season ticket he might hold torn up and thrown over him, or perhaps lose his job instantly as a suitable punishment for infringing these lunatic rules? It is time that the small group of people who seem to have little to do but cause trouble, stir up dissent and utter ridiculous statements realise that they cause problems for the very 'cause' they are seemingly trying to help.
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(107 Posts)Ann Francke Head of the Chartered Management Institute is calling for men to be prevented from discussing sport at work as it could lead to women feeling excluded.
Isn't it sexist to assume that women don't enjoy watching and talking about sport?
Are there any topics which women should be prevented from discussing?
Anyone else feel some of the "demands" are becoming trivial and frivolous?
Utter rubbish.where will all this nonsense end.
The world going mad!
I like some sport, especially football as I used to take my son to his matches when he was younger. He then went on to coach and now my grandson plays....in youth team for Portsmouth!
Hi. New to the forum. Just wanted to put the feelers out and ask advice. I have 1 grandchild age 1 Yr. My daughter is returning to work one day per week. It's obvious she was thinking I would childmind as she has made zero arrangements. Problem is that I work p/t and will not be able to retire for about another 10 years with the way pensions are going. I'm not keen to give up work even for 1 day as I will lose earnings and may not get my job back as it currently is. When my grandchild is age 3 she will be eligible for free nursery care. How do I confront my daughter with arranging for her child herself..... And am I being a bad grandmother... I feel very guilty
I think Keeleklogger has it, only safe topics, weather and how boring life is (because you're not allowed to talk about anything someone might felt left out of or disagree with). I'm glad I have retired and can talk to myself about whatever I choose. ?
What next the thought police .
There is also an assumption in this statement that the majority of people in the office will be male.
I spent most of my working life in male dominated offices, usually the only woman above clerical level and I cannot remember ever feeling excluded from conversation. So much else gets talked about at work than sport. In fact I cannot remember sport as a being a frequent and important subject of discussion If the subject being discussed didn't interest me I just wandered off and got on with my work. Things that didn't interest me included baby talk and holidays.
Please ban
Soaps
Vegetarianism/Veganism
Gym talk
Healthy outdoor activity
Partys I wasn't invited too
Nights in the pub I wasn't at
Movies I haven't seen
Politics I don't agree with
Harry and f****g Meghan
Any other Royals
Acceptable topics:
The Weather
How boring life is
I'd support a ban on sport small-talk if only because sport is ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
It's one thing to encourage an inclusive atmosphere and a range of topics but to start making rules like this is just so counterproductive and Big Brotherish. I like to think of myself as quite "aware" but this drive to make everyone conform to some ideal is a joyless business. On the one hand we have talk of the increase in loneliness and on the other there is an increasing likelihood of offending someone or other every time we speak! Apart from ageism...that seems mostly ok still.
My daughter says I use this word too often but, ridiculous!
It is beyond stupid and the CMI no doubt has many who do not agree with their Head. As the spokesperson for a reputable body such as the CMI I think there will be many within that body who wonder where this sort of thought could lead to.
Why men?
I feel there is a distinct whiff of misandry on so many occasions and like those who choose to use the tiresome phrase ' Stale. Pale, Old, White, Man ' I wonder what sometimes lies behind such very personal thoughts.
When is this P.C. going to stop.
it gets worse every day.It’s very tiring isn’t.I have stopped reading newspapers as most of the ‘news’ is depressing.
My job before retirement was driving all through the north of england visiting clients 9/10, were men M.D’s C E O’s etc
Without exception they all would chat about whatever sport had been on the night before luckily my DH is a sport fanatic if it’s sport on tv we are watching it,well truthfully DH is watching I am reading a book.But it did allow me to keep up with my clients,
Who would sometimes say are u very sporty to which I would reply no they just laughed and carried on chatting sport or politics ugh.But I just let them they were without exception very nice pleasant people I think I was very lucky.
In our office meetings once a month mixed group every one just chatted about whatever.
It’s just stupid to make such sexist rules men and women have managed to get a long for thousands of years why do these people think we need telling what to do and what to say it’s getting very boring,and irritating.
Absolutely ridiculous!
Kittylester - a friend of ours from football invited us 'girls' to his wedding. We sat at a table with one girl's new husband (who had 4 years of season ticket under his belt) and a family we didn't know. We 3 females had well over 60yrs of loyal supporting between us. Guess which one of us the dad talked football to?
I have a season ticket for my local rugby league team and could out talk some of the men on manoeuvres. But I once remember hearing a man saying women didn’t understand the offside rule! I love rugby union too and often explain to women the difference between the two codes. On my local ground I would say there are 30% women and girls watching the game.
Is sport a bit too hard for us?
- He only means footie, and yes, we can do footie too. I used to do archery - minority sport not many at all know about - so if I talked about that was I 'excluded' or my listeners - doh. What about the other way - if we talk about tights that come up under your armpits - are they excluded. What a farce. We are supposed to be 'all race, all culture' and we can't take a bit of chat about sport we might not be interested in - get real chaps.
I am so looking forward to the Six Nations over the next few weeks. When working I used to book days off if England were playing. Friends think I am mad that I live watching golf on tv. Oh...did I mention snooker? Been watching that since pot black days on a black and white tv.
So sexist, I am the first to talk about sport, six nations starting soon, just try stopping me taking to my male and female topics about this. WE will be supporting various nations too
That is just plain Bonkers!!!!! What next? I would talk about sport if I knew what I was talking about. Some people just love to spoil others fun. They need to get a life and a proper job!! Have a good sporty day!
Seems as though the CMI has its head in the sand - it is indeed sexist and the idea that blanket statements should apply to all workplaces when it comes to what individuals can talk about is ridiculous - what is important is that managements are approachable and able to handle genuine situations of where workers feel left out of conversations - and anyway are we all so fragile now that we can’t stand up for ourselves and ask for a change of topic or simply acknowledge the rights of others to talk about sport or cars or whatever else some ignorant person thinks are purely gendered subjects
If I don’t like or know about something someone else is discussing I either ignore it, ask questions about it or do something else. Unless it’s offensive or illegal people, at work or otherwise, should be free to talk about whatever they choose - goodness me, whatever next! As for the few on here who feel they are being “excluded” because they don’t have children or something else, try and join in and maybe add your own experiences, you don’t have to have children to know about them !
I well remember feeling obliged to have a 'team' in order to keep up with pre-meetings chat and never remembering what it was. Once I mentioned it in a warm-up when introducing a speaker and someone called out from the front row 'No it isn't winter white! Last week you said it was xxx.' 
Absurd. I would happily talk rugby, tennis, cricket.
It’s all getting too ridiculous. We’re almost banned from talking at all - let alone having an opinion. We’re either branded ‘sexist’, ‘racist’, ‘ageist’ and any other ‘ist’. People need to grow up and toughen up.
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