I think there is a lot of muddling up of charisma with charm strength, determination, power here, I think they are very different things and I also can’t see one person mention in any of this thread who I would call charismatic, charisma is something you can’t really explain and much more personal you have to be in the persons company to feel it
I had one boyfriend who had charisma he was the least handsome but he had deep deep brown eyes that somehow held your gaze longer than you expected and you melted He was also a very damaged soul
How anyone could imagine Ruth Davidson, or edwina Curry had charisma I can’t think in my wildest dreams, or Gina miller (who I admire) ...they have strength Very strong characters but charisma Nah