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Robbie Williams and surrogacy

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Greymar Fri 14-Feb-20 19:57:25

Money talks. Or hopefully not.

Kittye Sat 15-Feb-20 08:43:40

suziewoozie okay foetus then. ?

sodapop Sat 15-Feb-20 08:35:34

And what trauma is that Bibbity? I feel more strongly about them making this such a publicity stunt than the surrogacy.

suziewoozie Sat 15-Feb-20 07:18:15

Foetus.not baby

Kittye Sat 15-Feb-20 07:15:52

Bibbity abortion affects nobody but the woman? What about the baby??

Bibbity Fri 14-Feb-20 22:28:26

Because and abortion affects nobody but the woman.
A surrogacy deal is about the baby.

Willynilly Fri 14-Feb-20 22:22:03

Money does talk! My son and his wife get one....yes just ONE chance at IVF. They’ve been through so much already, these ‘celebrities’ have no idea about real life. Apparently they’re creating their perfect family! Ha!

merlotgran Fri 14-Feb-20 22:11:50

Apparently Ayda was unable to conceive after their first two children.

Anniebach Fri 14-Feb-20 22:06:32

Legally the surrogate is the mother and can decide to keep the baby

MissAdventure Fri 14-Feb-20 22:01:37

Why are they using a surrogate?

Anniebach Fri 14-Feb-20 21:59:16

Why do we move heaven and earth to support a woman’s right
to abort her own child but condemn a woman who is willing to carry and give birth to a child for a woman

I think they were so wrong to make this public

Bibbity Fri 14-Feb-20 21:58:34

Of course the surrogate is the mother. She created the child. Birthed the child. Legally she is the mother. To that baby she is the mother.

Bibbity Fri 14-Feb-20 21:57:39

There was a study conducted that showed that children born of surrogates exhibited the same trauma as adopted children.

We have proof of the 4th trimester. Proof that a newborn needs to stay with its mother. The woman who created and carried them.
It’s traumatic for a newborn to be removed from its mother.

Galaxy Fri 14-Feb-20 21:56:18

Yes they are. Women are not carriers or hothouses, every cell in the child's body is made by the mother, the importance of the fourth semester is only now being understood. Children should not be for sale.

Lolo81 Fri 14-Feb-20 21:51:34

@Galaxy, perhaps because in these cases (certainly in this one) the surrogate is not the child’s mother.

May7 Fri 14-Feb-20 21:39:15

Right with you Bluebelle
Arrogant couple ....got fame... got money so have whatever they want Seem like fakes to me but really do hope children have a nice life.

Galaxy Fri 14-Feb-20 21:34:10

Why do we move heaven and earth to keep children with their mothers except in these cases.

Anniebach Fri 14-Feb-20 21:26:01

No I wouldn’t, my elder daughter agonised over being a surrogate for my younger daughter but knew she would not be
able to give up the child.

I wouldn’t abort a child either

Greymar Fri 14-Feb-20 21:22:03

Would you give up a newborn?

Anniebach Fri 14-Feb-20 21:21:42

So a woman’s choice is respected for abortion but not for
Surrogacy

BlueBelle Fri 14-Feb-20 21:20:58

They make it everyone’s business don’t they ?
Unfortunately I ve always found him an extremely arrogant man and didn’t like his behaviour in the delivery room when one of the children were born (naturally) don’t know which one
Good luck to them but does it need to be ‘news’

Urmstongran Fri 14-Feb-20 21:19:30

What damage here Bibbity?

Bibbity Fri 14-Feb-20 21:18:18

I believe the objectification of women and the damage forced upon children to be everyone’s business

Oopsminty Fri 14-Feb-20 21:14:02

Nobody's business but theirs

The children are biologically theirs

Lovely life for them

Loved and wanted

Greymar Fri 14-Feb-20 21:08:44

Of course it's not a new idea but their sense of entitlement and ego is unpalatable to me.

trisher Fri 14-Feb-20 21:07:03

Very old idea. James Taylor did it years ago twins born in 2001. www.deseret.com/2001/4/11/19580110/surrogate-mom-brings-taylors-bundles-of-joy
There is a slight difference as a surrogate mother can be paid in the US but not in the UK.