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Caroline Flack Dead

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tickingbird Sat 15-Feb-20 17:49:38

I have just read this online and I’m very shocked. I can’t say I know much about her but watched Love Island last year. I know she’s been charged with assaulting her boyfriend but he was standing by her.

I just think it’s very sad.

tickingbird Mon 17-Feb-20 09:12:57

The police officer(s) who leaked and were obviously paid for the crime scene photographs needs to be sacked. Obviously the press offer money but police officers need to be above all that.

Daisymae Mon 17-Feb-20 09:10:53

The thing about fame is that you can't control it. Once you are in the public domain, especially if that's the life you have chosen, everything you do is put under the spotlight. I think that you have to have a resilient personality and a secure support network to cope when things go awry. The press are fickle, ditto the public. Hero one minute and villan the next.

suziewoozie Mon 17-Feb-20 09:05:01

Access = a case

suziewoozie Mon 17-Feb-20 09:04:28

Jim her case has been dealt with extraordinarily quickly. It happened in December and the court case was due early March. And this was with the Christmas holidays .With the resource crisis in our Courts, police, CPS , accused people wait much longer than this, often on remand or bail conditions that are very onerous. Often they can’t work. There will always be some wait as evidence has to be gathered, access prepared and a defence case assembled. I’m afraid your sort of post is another example of how so many people haven’t got a clue about the CJS and why there is so much ill informed rubbish being spouted all over the place a out this case.

TerriBull Mon 17-Feb-20 08:54:41

Yes I also agree with the very good points made by Iam

Greymar Mon 17-Feb-20 08:40:44

Well said I am.

TerriBull Mon 17-Feb-20 08:39:05

Yes we have an intrusive press, but certain celebrities put every aspect of their life up for public consumption via social media. I do believe it's possible to be a famous person and live a completely private life. For example, I've never read anything about the actress Emily Watson, not to be confused with Emma the Harry Potter actress. Clearly when she isn't working in pretty high profile stuff such as "Chernobyl" she lives her life as a private individual away from the spotlight, there are others no doubt, but she springs to mind having recently watched that programme. Obviously "Love Island" is not of that ilk and as a high profile load of salacious crap designed to appeal to the masses in the basest way, possibly it would, I imagine the producers would expect a presenter to have some sort of profile However, there are those that reveal too much about themselves, and if you do, it seems that stirs up a hornet's nest of trolls who make it their business to stalk the vulnerable on social media sites. Maybe it would be a good thing not to keep blasting the Twittersphere with drivel homilies and just keep quiet.

sodapop Mon 17-Feb-20 08:35:10

Totally agree Iam64

I thought they were cancelling tonight's show as well BlueBelle no shame.

Iam64 Mon 17-Feb-20 08:15:22

I'm still shocked by people blaming the police, the cps, the courts. The change to laws on domestic abuse were made to protect victims. A large number of people who have been the victims of DA don't want their partner prosecuted. That doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. A successful prosecution can lead to the perpetrator being involved in a programme, aimed at changing their behaviour.
The information about this alleged assault suggests this woman needed psychological help. My own view, is that people who are attracted to this kind of reality tv show are unlikely to be the most grounded and involvement won't help them achieve stability.

BlueBelle Mon 17-Feb-20 08:07:34

So Love Island is back on the screens tonight
UNBELIEVABLE

Purplepoppies Mon 17-Feb-20 07:25:14

Yes, very sad she felt she had no other choice.

Domestic violence is horrific. Even if her boyfriend didn't want to press charges the law now has changed. The police, if they have enough evidence, can put a case to the CPS . This is to try and stop victims being bullied into dropping charges as historically they have done. I for one completely agree with the law change.
What I don't agree with is why it has to be public? She had not been convicted.
I do agree she should have been suspended from her job. Again, that should not have been public, or the reason behind it anyway.
I don't know if the poor woman would have taken a different decision if she had had privacy.
I don't think our press laws are right or fair. Many people are found to be not guilty but their names and faces are bandied around the media and people make judgments. Very difficult for a jury to come to an unbiased conclusion imo.
The young folk who choose to take part in these reality programmes do so without much forethought it seems. Fame hungry. To have sexual relations (albeit under sheets) on camera is degrading. Shit sticks. That's the reality. After the deaths that programme has already had I for one would be happy to see it scrapped, like Jeremy Kyle!

Yehbutnobut Mon 17-Feb-20 06:28:45

“To the press, the newspapers, who create clickbait, who demonise and tear down success, we’ve had enough,” said Whitmore in an impassioned speech on her weekly BBC Radio 5 live show.

“I’ve seen journalists and Twitter warriors talk of this tragedy and they themselves twisted what the truth is … Your words affect people. To paparazzi and tabloids looking for a cheap sell, to trolls hiding behind a keyboard, enough.”

Sadly, it will never happen while there’s that sick audience out there who gobble up this tabloid poison.

Jimjam1 Sun 16-Feb-20 20:29:27

The looming court case must have been on her mind for months. This is a good example why court cases must be dealt with within weeks rather then months.

ExperiencedNotOld Sun 16-Feb-20 19:58:17

Media - Instagram, YouTube, television - has facilitated a quick entry into a false world of so called celebrity, quickly removing those that become ‘stars’ from‘real’ reality. There is a comfort in the humdrum predictable existence most of us have, where we can know who we can trust and who is a real friend. Love Island has had three associated deaths but how many other lives has it tainted by other programmes? Arg from TOWIE. Sandi from Googlebox. Probably many more. You don’t have to look to far to find many that have revelled in the spotlight and floundered when that light turns away from them. The only things that will stop this cheap telly preying on young people is not to watch it. However I think that’s unlikely at the moment.

rafichagran Sun 16-Feb-20 18:32:00

Laura Whitmore gave a very emotional tribute to her friend, even though clearly in much distress. This spoke volumes to me, far more than the posts on Twitter.

suziewoozie Sun 16-Feb-20 18:03:57

SV who over the years in the DM has rubbished many a woman. Still given who she has to go home to ....

Greymar Sun 16-Feb-20 18:01:27

Ah Sarah Vine, the reputable psychiatrist who backed the research of her rather contoversial friend, the one who made up results.

JenniferEccles Sun 16-Feb-20 18:01:09

I completely agree Sparklefizz

I was amazed when it was the first story covered on the BBC evening news with everything else going on with floods and of course the Coronavirus.

Sad for her family, naturally but did it really warrant being headline news?

ReadyMeals Sun 16-Feb-20 18:00:26

I heard on one radio interview that it was only confirmed a few hours before she died. Still, there is a lot of conflicting information going around

suziewoozie Sun 16-Feb-20 17:57:42

CF knew the date of her court appearance before Christmas and only two weeks after the date of the alleged asssult..

whywhywhy Sun 16-Feb-20 17:53:08

I hope she is at peace now. Sorry ReadyMeals I didn't mean to offend you and I take it back. There is enough misery connected to this without me say that.

Sparklefizz Sun 16-Feb-20 17:50:57

Naturally I'm sorry for the loss of anyone's life but do we really need loads of articles about her online when the UK has suffered terrible floods this weekend on top of last weekend's floods, plus it now is likely that the Corona Virus actually originated from a lab near the Wuhan Wet Food Market, where experiments were taking place on bats!!

Surely these should taken precedence.

ReadyMeals Sun 16-Feb-20 17:46:01

BTW "pipe down" is a bit rude to say to someone and not a useful way to discuss a topic.

Sparklefizz, my hunch is the confirmation of the prosecution was the immediate trigger for her action. The timing of that seemed to mark the change from her posting fairly normally on social media and suddenly pulling her posts and becoming suicidal. Although obviously that came on top of an already rather unhappy situation.

Anniebach Sun 16-Feb-20 17:43:05

It’s sad but celebrities seek attention , seek the media , the media doesn’t back off when things go wrong,

suziewoozie Sun 16-Feb-20 17:32:41

40 is not young