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Chaos when its all over?

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ExD Tue 31-Mar-20 09:53:06

Its becoming hard to imagine, but one day all this will be over. And then, I for one and I imagine thousands of others, will want to visit distant family we've not seen for months.
Imagine the chaos on the roads when we all hit the motorways and travel up, down and sideways across the country - at the same time.
If I'm spared I'm determined to resist the temptation to do this, and I hope my family will understand.

Davidhs Tue 31-Mar-20 17:40:39

Those that have any spare cash will travel quickly, many will not, especially small businesses, nobody is paying bills at present.

The lucky ones with a fixed annuity or pension will be OK, if the restrictions last 3 months it will be bad, if they extend beyond that most are going to have no cash. A lot of companies will throw the towel in and declare bankrupt, they were struggling with the Brexit uncertainty this will finish them.

I’m an optimist but I dont see where cash is going to come from, unless we get back to work quickly

M0nica Tue 31-Mar-20 16:53:32

I doubt that the government will suddenly say 'As from tomorrow, everything back to normal'. I think regulations will be relaxed gradually, perhaps some area before others, sometimes with them being reimposed, so I think the mad rush of travel is likely to be filtered in.

Yes, for those on limited income during this time of hardship, things will be difficult, but do not forget that there are millions of people working from home doing there job as before and being paid as normal, plus, of course all those who have continued to work outside the home during the pandemic from NHS staff to home delivery people.

Many will have made savings during this time because they have no travel expenses, are not eating out, going shopping, as a leisure activity, going to sports stadiums, cinemas, theatres. etc.

These people will be rushing out to eat out, mingle with other people, go to museums, sports events. These are the kind of industries that employ those who are now out of work. I think thebleisure industry will boom.

Yes, there will be casualties and there will be problems, but not as many as some miseries seem to hope.

notanan2 Tue 31-Mar-20 16:22:45

Agree Chestnut. We have now and need to accept it.

The brewery that owns my local pub probably wont make it through this. The independant pub's owner has been online saying he cant promise people their jobs back. Had this happened at the end of the summer they would have survived but having kept it afloat over the quieter winter, they now have no buffer. They very much rely on the summer trade and take losses over winter

Barmeyoldbat Tue 31-Mar-20 15:43:08

I think people will be healthier when this is all over. I see many more people jogging, cycling and walking outdoors , many more than you normally see. Less cars on the road, so less pollution so can only be good.

Curlywhirly Tue 31-Mar-20 15:33:28

Well, I for one can't wait to go to the pub! I'm not a big drinker, but we do like taking the dog for a country walk and then calling in a pub for a drink, it's a lovely afternoon out. I would think, initially, that the pubs in our village will be overflowing.

Chestnut Tue 31-Mar-20 15:28:38

I'm not too keen on thinking about next year 2021, I'd rather think of last year 2019, when we lived in a different world. A world that was gone in an instant. We had no idea that was the last year of 'normal' life. I really don't think that things will ever be quite the same, this is going to change the world.

Grannybags Tue 31-Mar-20 15:27:14

One of the first places I'll be going is my hairdresser!

ExD Tue 31-Mar-20 15:25:15

Thats a very positive outlook eazybee.

notanan2 Tue 31-Mar-20 15:17:19

Otherwise we'll be looking back on now in a years time wondering why we didnt appreciate what we still had

notanan2 Tue 31-Mar-20 15:15:33

Depends on your perspective. Im saying things are actually still relatively comfortable. Enjoy what we have now rather than living for some fantastical future where we are all dancing in the streets (living on them more like!)

eazybee Tue 31-Mar-20 15:12:20

Actually , glass half empty.
Talk about Job's comforters.

eazybee Tue 31-Mar-20 15:11:31

This really ought to go on the 'glass half full' thread.
It will happen, and it will be what it will be; who can possibly predict how or when it will occur.
Some of the changes could be for the better:-
People will appreciate the service industries, and all the selfless people who have put themselves on the front line to help.
More home cooked food, less exotic fruit and vegetables out of season.
More thrift, 'you don't know when it might come in useful.'
Clean, tidy homes and immaculate gardens.
Enjoying visiting relatives.
Learn to enjoy your own company.
Really glad to go back to work, to school, to the dentists!
Appreciate your life and health.

notanan2 Tue 31-Mar-20 14:38:44

Not every business is eligible for gov grants either. Not that that'll be enough for many

notanan2 Tue 31-Mar-20 14:37:35

Not the pubs, cafes and restraunts that havent been paying their rents.
Or the ones in complexes owned by freeholders that are going bust (some of the biggest shopping centre owners in UK are going into administration)
Not the ones that cant pay the hiked up council rates which will be in place after this

SalsaQueen Tue 31-Mar-20 14:30:04

I imagine pubs, cafes and restaurants will all be crowded too. For the first week, I missed all those social events, but now I'm not that bothered.

notanan2 Tue 31-Mar-20 12:53:50

Its in all the papers not just DM.

The grid can cope apparently its a workforce issue at the moment.

But there will be long term effects like the workforce NOW being redirected to essential work means we are not going to have the non essential updates and maintenance done, which'll affect us in coming years IYKWIM

Fiachna50 Tue 31-Mar-20 12:50:31

Notanan, totally get you. By the way re power cuts, if you are referring to the rubbish in the DM, that newspaper is responsible for panicking people. However, I think you have a good handle on the situation. I for one won't be rushing out anywhere.

sodapop Tue 31-Mar-20 12:26:39

Sadly there is a lot of truth in what you say notanan2 I'm just taking one day at a time and trying not to worry in advance.

notanan2 Tue 31-Mar-20 11:52:22

This is the bit we will look back on as the better times. We are now being told to prepare for more power cuts etc.

Enjoy what we have now while we have it.

One of the things that will go as people struggle with basic bills is internet/data credit. So people will be in touch less not more. We're still sitting pretty.

notanan2 Tue 31-Mar-20 11:46:25

Most people wont have an income!
The government prop ups are temporary
The temporary keyworker contracts will end

Non retired people are not planning lots of celebrations to invite you to next year! They're wondering how to keep a roof over their heads when their old employer doesnt reopen etc

vampirequeen Tue 31-Mar-20 11:30:55

There's no harm in looking to the future. No matter how long it takes, it won't last for ever. I'm not sure why normal put us in this situation though. Normal didn't create the virus, It just helped it spread because we didn't act quickly enough. I don't want to live in self imposed lockdown for the rest of my life just in case another virus arises. I'm looking forward to the day when we go back to normal. Admittedly certain appointments will be at a premium for a while so we may have to be patient but eventually normality will return but eventually we'll be able to live life as we did....see friends and family, share celebrations, attend funerals, have days out etc.

notanan2 Tue 31-Mar-20 11:25:30

If you want to stay positive I wouldnt look forward, its going to be grim! Global recession and all the hardships and deaths they bring.

If you wanna be positive enjoy what we have NOW. We've still got it relatively good, make the most of it, much worse is to come.

MawB Tue 31-Mar-20 11:24:00

ExD we are only in Week 2 (well some of us for longer but I am speaking of the country as a whole) and I wold rather not look 3 or 6 or however many months ahead - how long is a piece of string anyway?
Remember what they said on the outbreak of WWI- “it’ll all be over by Christmas”.
Yes, cling to hopes for the future but don’t worry about whether it will be chaotic or one damp squib.

ExD Tue 31-Mar-20 11:22:44

There are a lot of sensible points being made, and I agree it'll be a long time before we're back to anything like 'normal' and I also agree we should have locked down sooner.
However, looking ahead towards the 'light at the end of the tunnel' is whats keeping me going. I only hope I'm here to see it.

notanan2 Tue 31-Mar-20 11:20:31

Its not going to end abruptly. It wont be like yesterday everything was shut and today you can do what you want.

Restrictions will ease a bit then tighten again a bit.

Lots of businesses will never re open
Lots of people wont have the money to go back to doing what they did before
Other people will be too anxious to stop social distancing.

Post CV austerity will hit hard.

Most people WONT be able to "make up for missed time"