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Narnia Tue 31-Mar-20 19:33:35

It's actually starting to depress me how much unkindness is going on when more than ever we need a kind word or some comfort!
Not just on this group but other forums and local groups I visit.
Everyone is worried, scared and missing loved ones and this situation is totally alien to us all. I see posts where people are just maybe looking for a reassuring word or "virtual" hug but receive negative, abrupt replies or worse judgy holier than thou responses.
And don't get me started on the made up drivel doing the rounds on social media, all designed to scare scared people!
Nobody is enjoying this, nobody is more clued up than anyone else (although a lot pretend to be)
I have an 80yr old mum and a 7 week old Grandson, our first that I miss and worry about.
The baby has already had a week in hospital having lumbar punctures and iv antibiotics. I've seen him virtually everyday and it's breaking my heart to not be able to hold him.
And I know many are in the same position.
This week I will return to my job in a school nursery looking after 2, 3 and 4year olds and it terrifies me. They have no clue about social distancing. And it grates to look after others but be told I can't see my own grandchild.
Yes I'm ranting I know. So will prob get negative responses to this!
Don't get me wrong ive seen some lovely acts of kindness too which makes me smile. Maybe fear/boredom is making people argumentative and nasty ?‍♀️
What happened to #bekind?

Narnia Wed 01-Apr-20 10:58:38

Franbern, my local community group did the same for my mum, gave her bags of yarn. She's 80 and knits for charity or hats for the local maternity hospital.

Franbern Wed 01-Apr-20 10:46:51

Yes, there are a minority who are unkind and hurtful in different ways, but I do think that the genuine humanity has come to the top at this dreadful time and acts of kindness and suppport are being reported by so many.
On GN, I mentioned that I was worried about not having enough yarn for me to do knitting and keep myself occupied during this, and another GNtte, whom I have never met, nor even talked to previously, pm's me offering to send me yarn from her own stash, at her own expense.
This is the sort of genuine kindness is is wonderful.

lemongrove Wed 01-Apr-20 09:04:28

I am finding plenty of kindness ( the kindness of strangers!)

dragonfly46 Wed 01-Apr-20 08:57:42

Narnia I am so sorry you have found this. I am shielding and have found everyone to be very kind. My friends and groups on FB have also been supportive.
Sussex I am on a couple of breast cancer groups and without exception every one is kind. I am sorry you have come across trolls.

Hetty58 Wed 01-Apr-20 08:57:24

Tuppence15, I have reported my neighbours with no qualms whatsoever.

Their behaviour is just as anti social and dangerous as drunk drivers.

They are putting themselves, others, perhaps my family members at risk.

Therefore, as a responsible and caring person, it's my civic duty to report them.

Narnia Wed 01-Apr-20 08:48:53

Thankyou all for the lovely messages and inboxes.
I have seen some acts of kindness and we do have a local community group where people help each other.
It's more that I find people are looking for an argument in every comment, saying things to others that they would never say face to face.
Then the people who relish in voicing their disgust at 2 people shopping together or buying "non essential items" I just want to tell them to mind their own business!
Things are bad enough at the moment without turning on each other I'm sure!
I want this to be over quickly so I can see my beautiful DD and GS but bickering and picking at others perceived wrong doings isn't going to make it go away.
So tomorrow I will be in work, painting on a smile and trying to make the most of it x

Elegran Wed 01-Apr-20 08:35:25

Hetty The bad DO NOT outnumber the good. It is just that the bad acts are more newsworthy, and they annoy people so much that they post about them on social media. If we posted more often about all the little acts of kindness we receive, THEY would by far outnumber the selfishness.

Oopsminty Wed 01-Apr-20 07:55:45

I've found a lot of kindness without looking

Young neighbour left me a beautiful bunch of flowers on the doorstep over the weekend with a small note saying they'd used gloves and left 24 hours before delivery

Walking the dog is always a friendly time but now we are all waving and expressing the 2020 comment of the year, 'stay safe'.

I miss seeing the grandchildren but one of my AC is home. .She works in Oxford, had come home for Mother's Day and has been told to stay here on full pay for who knows how long

Social media is also awash with kind comments and funny memes and clips

And yes, we do need a laugh sometimes

It's hard work but 'this too will pass'

eazybee Wed 01-Apr-20 07:50:10

'and', also kindness of strangers;

eazybee Wed 01-Apr-20 07:49:09

I see much kindness ans bravery everywhere.
Yesterday my next door neighbour mowed my lawn for me; the teenager on the other side offered two weeks ago to collect shopping for me; my son and daughter and partners are coping well, working from home and keeping in touch to check that we are all all right; the staff in the local Tesco is cheerful, helpful and working like stink to keep the store open and the shelves stocked.

I don't like being classed old and vulnerable and wish I could get out and do something; it doesn't seem right to be skulking indoors when so many younger people are putting their lives on the line.

Coolgran65 Wed 01-Apr-20 04:12:59

I have been fortunate and when out for our daily walk see friendly people and lots of smiles. As I walk along if I see someone sitting looking out ive taken to giving a wave. It's wonderful to get an enthusiastic wave in return.

This is the only forum I look at so don't see much of social media.
I miss our dgc so much. 6 of them.

Actually my dsteps had one horrible experience. he coparents his 3 year old child. There is a court order confirming this. The mother said she wanted the child to stay with her for the foreseeable future until Covid19 has passed. My ds said no chance and that the Gov had confirmed that any child the subject of a Court Order should continue to go to both parents. Her reply was that she hoped he would get Covid19 and die. So yes, there was one particularly nasty incident. I do see it from mum's emotional point of view but she knows the dgs is well looked after and loved when with his dad.

I think that after a couple of weeks of self isolating people are starting to realise just how emotionally tough this is going to be.

gmarie Wed 01-Apr-20 01:46:58

Oops, left out the "l" --- flowers flowers flowers

gmarie Wed 01-Apr-20 01:45:41

I feel for you, Narnia having to work with other peoples' children while not being able to see the ones you love in your family. [fowers]

Addressing the unkindness general, I think we need to actively seek out the positive and avoid the personally painful. I say personal because we all have different triggers and thresholds. Just as an example and not about this current crisis, I'm always crushed when I read a story about cruelty to children or animals or, indeed, anyone. I know there's a LOT of it out there so I purposely look for the heartwarming and kind things people do. If I didn't, I'd be depressed a lot. The same can be said for these times we live in. There are so many stories of kind people helping one-another, singing from the rooftops, working in hospitals away from their families, etc.

Very coincidentally, one of my friends just sent me this poem as I'm typing this!

ArtySue Wed 01-Apr-20 01:01:56

We are all struggling in one way or another. My blind daughter has OCD and worries when she goes out that she may be carrying the virus. My 4 year old granddaughter is missing me so much that she keeps getting her mum to pretend she's me! grin My photographer son has lost all his business. We were all unprepared for this and need to actively seek out evidence of good things and kind people, of which there are many. If you want a smile Google the postman who is doing his rounds in fancy dress to cheer up his customers. A very big hug to all of you who are scared. Night night.

grannyactivist Wed 01-Apr-20 01:01:22

BradfordLass73 thank you - you beat me to it. I hadn't spotted the magazine article, but having now skimmed it (thanks for the link) I was aware of many of the kindnesses that appear on the list.

Locally to me we've had so many examples of selfless goodwill that I'm deeply touched by the sheer kindliness of people. Many of them have been going out of their way to assist others and simply do kind deeds.

My daughter lives in another town and told me today that in addition to the rainbows and teddy bears that have been appearing in windows people have also, in random acts of kindness, been posting arts/craft gifts to families with children (carefully received and handled in an appropriate way by my daughter who got one). My other daughter has decorated her driveway with bunting and pretty cut-outs to lift the spirits of those who pass by.

There will always be people who are negative or unkind, but often even those responses are born out of fear or anger at injustice (perceived or real).

BradfordLass73 Wed 01-Apr-20 00:43:02

Lots of Good News here:

www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/g31658888/coronavirus-covid-19-good-news/

janipat Tue 31-Mar-20 23:50:53

In real life I think most people are being kinder. I had to go to the shop today because I was totally out of many staples. The queue outside was orderly, keeping distance, but smiling and greeting each other, and having conversations. In the shop most were being very careful to maintain separation as far as possible, and happy to wait their turn at the shelves. I think lots are craving interaction, even at a distance, with other humans. The checkout staff chatted while processing our goods and I honestly didn't see a grumpy face at all. Like many of you I crave to see my grandchildren and children in the UK, and ache that I don't think there's a snowball in hell's chance I'll get to Canada this year. These are trying, worrying times, and for those totally confined to home it is extra hard. Social media, with its anonymity, can be a very vicious place.

Tuppence15 Tue 31-Mar-20 23:35:52

I totally agree with you. I am frightened for my nearest and dearest and concerned about the wider society. Even my own family seem to want to report neighbours for their behaviour which concerns me as what we are all becoming.

Hetty58 Tue 31-Mar-20 23:23:55

This crisis has brought out the best in some people and the worst in others. Unfortunately, the latter seem to outnumber the former!

merlotgran Tue 31-Mar-20 23:20:02

I would love to be able to visit DD's grave.

Those of you who are missing your DDs who live just a few miles away, be thankful you still have them.

gillybob Tue 31-Mar-20 23:17:28

That’s lovely luckygirl. I’m
Just struggling so much right now it hard to see the good stuff . X

Luckygirl Tue 31-Mar-20 23:14:51

These absences are so hard for us all. But there is goodness around too. Someone has been going to my OH's grave (because we cannot go there) and putting flowers on and sending us photos of what she has done - that is what I call kindness.

gillybob Tue 31-Mar-20 23:12:21

Thank you so much Narnia I really needed that hug x

what are we to do ? My DD worked in a branded coffee shop. I looked after her baby when she worked and I took her along with me to my work . Now her coffee shop has closed and so has my small business and I’m distraught . They are there dad and alone and I’m here with a poorly DH and alone and sad too. There are no positives .
What a horrible time for us all.
Thinking about you and your family xxx

Narnia Tue 31-Mar-20 23:02:13

Gillybob, oh it's heartbreaking! My Daughter is only prob 3 miles away too.
If this had been 3 weeks ago then I couldn't have left her as things were so bad. But she's back on her feet and breastfeeding is going amazingly well for her. So I'm proud, proud of the woman that I've raised and her determination to do the best for her baby in challenging circumstances. I really am trying to find the positives, but I feel I'm missing so much.
Sending you a big virtual hug xx

gillybob Tue 31-Mar-20 22:54:26

Oh God Narnia I feel your pain I honestly do. I’m crying my eyes out right now having just spoken to my DD who is a single parent with a not quite 2 year old . We don’t know if or when we will ever see each other again and she’s only 5 miles away . We are used to spending so much time together it physically hurts . sad