Boris..intensive care..

yes exactly GG. Does tyvek come from abroad?

Re numbers of cases the Worldometer update is useful, updated daily.

Do we have a different model to follow than other European countries? I thought scientists were using similar modelling? The one we are following was to work out when the peak may occur and to flatten it so as not to completely overwhelm the NHS and adjust as events unfolded. According to that, I understood the peak has yet to arrive, later and not as high as if we had followed no restrictions.

France has by far the highest number of cases and deaths after Spain and Italy with a population about the equivalent of the UK.
Although Germany's death rare is lower, I read that they do not record COVID19 as cause of death if someone had an underlying condition, so their lower numbers could not be regarded as correct.

It is all unbearably tragic, whatever the numbers.
Numbers are people with loved ones.

craftyone tyvek is the ^brand name^it is polyethylene coated polypropylene. Under usual circumstances there can be a 5-10 day wait for orders to be delivered (Our business supplies safety clothing/products). I should imagine that the production companies are overwhelmed at the moment.

I watched a bit of GMB this morning and Linda Lusardi was on via video link and got very upset and tearful discussing her brush with death. She looks amazing for 61 and her husband is 51. She is obviously very healthy and they were both hospitalised and she, in particular, was extremely ill. It's true that people think it won't happen to them. We all need to be vigilant. I can get a bit OCD with it but it is scary.

? no gabriella I genuinely misunderstood.

But getting back to your second post explaining what you meant.

I am not one who gets emotional over people I don’t know, and simply find it difficult to understand. It was just the same with Dianna.

I feel concern for anyone going through such a critical time, but feel no more for Johnson than anyone else I don’t know.

My concern is however for this leaderless country.

But saying all that, you know, everyone is different, that is what makes us all so interesting or frustrating or furious or happy (take your pick) so I would advise you to give everyone a break?. Let it go and relax

The special fabric for PPE is called tyvek and that is probably what is holding up manufacture. Surely the designer manufacturers are ready and waiting, I hope so

You’re right Gaga - it seems that too many think it won’t happen to them, with far too many excuses made about why they ‘need’ to go out.

Absolutely agree White, each figure represents a much loved family member or friend and these people are never coming back. This won’t be over until we have a vaccine, probably into next year - all we’re doing at the moment is containing it as best we can and spreading it out over many months to create healthcare capacity.

GabriellaG54, how we react individually to this situation differs according to our personality, life experience and outlook.

I'm calm in a crisis. This is not the worst thing that's happened in my life. I can be detached and rational but concerned and interested.

I have a friend and a sister who are really freaked out by it.
They can't change the way they feel, however much I try to reassure them.

Re the report that Britain may have one of the highest death tolls in Europe, bear in mind that we have the third highest population, nearly 68 million.
So a straight count compared with a country that has 24 million makes a good headline but is not necessarily meaningful.

That was to Whitewavemark2, who obvs tried to snip...without success.

The FT has a useful mapping system. The figures are only 'reported' cases though. The truth may be somewhat different.

www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

Yeah...funny, not.
I find it odd that Boris's hospitalisation is engendering feelings of being tearful, upset and ill in some GNers.
Some people get overly involved with people they don't know, somehow letting it affect their emotions. I wonder why.
Ready to get upset, crying all day, offended/affronted whatever, at the drop of a hat.
One can be concerned without all that.

sirchen I think that is the biggest issue (herd immunity). It has certainly not helped, but we can only hope that the scientists have put a lid on that initial period of bad misjudgement. The extra beds being prepared in field type structures don’t fill me with confidence though.

It is easy to talk about huge figures, but each one represents a life, a family and devastation.

That is what worries me SCJ. We went into lockdown late and there are still lots of people out. Italy is only just beginning to see the results of their lockdown and they are far stricter with it than we're being.

White - it’s a very worrying report obviously, but the figures have been disputed by UCL www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/uk-will-be-europes-worst-hit-by-coronavirus-study-predicts
Ultimately I suppose no-one knows. The herd immunity approach promoted initially by the Govt and the delayed lockdown (which is still not being adhered to by many) can’t have helped though.

PamelaJ1, that is good but rather late in the day. Better late than never. It's always a case of wrong priorities, then too little, too late.

WW2, hoping it's not as bad as predicted, of course, but I believe the real truth is that nobody knows - yet.

Sorry to hear that gabriella one of your runs might sort you out?

Feeling ill, upset, tearful? What in the world...?

Whitewave yes I've read it and it's now repeated on social media. I too am waiting for it to be dismissed but I've learnt not to believe everything I read, especially the sensational headlines. Anyway let's hope so, we can only do what we have been instructed to do, the rest is in the lap of the gods, like everything else.

The other issue for me is that listening to clinicians it is clear that Johnson will not be well enough to return to work for many weeks if not months.

The constitution needs tweaking to allow for a temporary leader with the same powers as a PM.

Hetty,
There is an article on Breakfast as I am typing about a firm that is making visors.

I am very worried over a headline in the front page today. I hope with everything possible that it is proved wrong, once more data becomes available.

“The U.K. is on course to have the highest death toll in Europe. Deaths are likely to reach 3K a day with a total of 66K”

Produced by The Institute for Health Metrics and Evalution

Any one is very welcome to post evidence that this is rubbish. We need it to be rubbish.

If car manufacturers can turn out ventilators, where are the UK firms turning out PPE? It's not being provided, resulting in 'needless death' for workers and patients:

Chewbacca, of course I read the news! I suggest that you take time to read this - from the Doctors' Association:

'We demand to know where this equipment is being produced, in what quantities, and when and how it will be delivered to the front line.'

www.dauk.org/news/2020/4/6/jointstatementdoctorsinuniteppe

There’s a knack to getting ones point across without resorting to ‘venom and tosh’ I agree.

Of course we are all human and sometimes feelings take over. I’m sure we’ve all said, or posted, something we later regret in the heat of the moment.

Thank goodness we are getting some balanced sensible posts. There has been too much hysteria in some areas of the media in general and I suppose GN is not immune to that, too many (dare I say) “Chinese whispers” about conspiracies to bump off the economically inactive, too much 20/20 hindsight, too many unfounded rumours, and too many unqualified opinions without medical foundation.
I was on the point of giving up on GN last night because I despaired of the lethal mixture of venom and tosh which characterised some threads. Yes, everybody is entitled to their opinion, but it can be hard to withstand the verbal ding-dongs when we are all as tense and stressed enough as we are.
Age is supposed to bring wisdom, our generation could be expected to show common sense and where we know nothing about a subject, perhaps listen and learn before sounding off.
That’s all really. ?