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farview Mon 06-Apr-20 20:18:00

News tweeted by Robert Peston..poor man..hope he gets well..

maddyone Mon 13-Apr-20 11:42:48

Well I didn’t know that notanan, thank you.

notanan2 Mon 13-Apr-20 11:40:28

There are different entrances for different things as they try to zone hospitals at the moment. He will have gone in a "red" door (there may be more than one) and not a "green" door as green entrances are now for non CV patients who still need hospital treatment

maddyone Mon 13-Apr-20 11:36:08

Yes, thank you heath480 for the factual information. I already knew that patients are treated individually and according to their need, but it’s useful for it to be pointed out from someone who knows this absolutely.
I did see that Boris was admitted to hospital via a back door and obviously most patients aren’t. However this was very obviously to protect his confidentiality; at the front there would have been press waiting to photograph him. That is probably why he went to hospital in a car rather than an ambulance, as an ambulance outside number 10 would have caused speculation and been much less private for him. The public were kept informed via press releases, the PM deserved to have his confidentiality protected just as much as anyone else.

notanan2 Mon 13-Apr-20 11:33:47

And he had one of the best specialist doctors in the world.

He did but I dont know that there are any ITU consultants who wouldn't be described that way.
It's one of the most prestigous specialities. You do actually have to be the "best" just to make consultant. Just making it as far as an ITU registrar takes some doing!

notanan2 Mon 13-Apr-20 11:28:20

ITUs at the moment are actually staffed 2 nurses per patient not the usual 1:1. Tasks are harder with all the PPE. One person jobs now take 2 people so they pair up and switch who is the "runner"

Chewbacca Mon 13-Apr-20 11:20:47

Thank you for some factual information heath480 and not some made up twaddle that's been conjured up to fit your agenda.

Calendargirl Mon 13-Apr-20 10:47:53

I for one am extremely glad he was well enough to leave hospital, and gave sincere and heartfelt thanks for his care.

Anniebach Mon 13-Apr-20 09:40:44

Thank you surfsup

It is posts such as the one from Labiak which makes it impossible to believe much which is reported

surfsup Mon 13-Apr-20 09:07:07

I believe the two consultants overseeing his care, including the Italian dr, both work at the hospital. It would have been the nursing staff seeing over his care for the most part and I doubt his care was any different to anyone else's.

Anniebach Mon 13-Apr-20 08:15:23

Labiak you said the PM had ‘one of the best specialist doctor’s in the world’

Who is this doctor ? Does he work in that hospital full time
or was he brought in just to treat the PM ?

heath480 Mon 13-Apr-20 00:21:24

I am a Registered Nurse,Registered Sick Children’s Nurse and Registered Midwife.So know a fair bit about our NHS.

heath480 Mon 13-Apr-20 00:19:25

Labiak,ALL patients on a ventilator have there own Registered Nurse,it is 1:1 ratio.

Patients who are less ill it is 1:2.

That is the specially trained ICU Nurses,as well as those there are Registered Nurses of a lower grade.

I doubt Boris was treated any different to the other patients,it is not how our NHS operates.

Your comments are uncalled for.

Chestnut Sun 12-Apr-20 23:38:23

JenniferEccles - spot on. He was extremely ill at one point but did not require a ventilator. He said there were two nurses who watched him round the clock and that careful monitoring is possibly why he didn't go to the ventilator stage. A ventilator is very intrusive and debilitating to the patient but he has avoided that experience and maybe that's why he has recovered well.

maddyone Sun 12-Apr-20 23:18:51

I’m glad that Boris has recovered sufficiently to leave hospital, but he clearly needs rest and recuperation now, as will any Covid patient who is lucky enough to leave hospital alive. Our NHS staff do not differentiate, they treat each and every patient in the best way possible for the recovery of that patient. I have two family members who work for the NHS and I also resent the suggestion that some people are treated more favourably than others. To suggest otherwise for political purposes is not only incorrect, it’s unpleasant.

JenniferEccles Sun 12-Apr-20 22:51:59

Boris most certainly was seriously ill, and in fact he said it could have gone either way.

I imagine he recovered fairly quickly once he came out of intensive care because he wasn’t on a ventilator or any intrusive form of delivering oxygen.

He sounded so grateful to the staff didn’t he?

What a massive relief for his family.

Anniebach Sun 12-Apr-20 22:31:08

Agree Callistemon there is much poison, yet there is caring
too.

I didn’t know they had named the doctor who treated him

Callistemon Sun 12-Apr-20 22:28:54

It's probably best to give GN a break at the moment I think.

Callistemon Sun 12-Apr-20 22:27:40

Thank you GrannyLaine

Sometimes I am in bits thinking about them at work and to read this kind of poison makes my blood boil

GrannyLaine Sun 12-Apr-20 22:26:04

Crossed posts Callistemon

Callistemon Sun 12-Apr-20 22:25:56

Resent all you like, I care not a jot what you think.

GN is quite poisonous at the moment.

GrannyLaine Sun 12-Apr-20 22:25:01

" However I also think that he had better care than anyone else has had at this moment in time "

actually Labiak you did say exactly that.

Callistemon Sun 12-Apr-20 22:24:52

That is exactly what you said.

You said he probably had better care than anyone else has had at this time

If you are going to say how dare you I will respond with how dare you say that. I have close family members working in ICUs as you sit at home assuming that.

I can't tell you how angry I feel.

You should be ashamed.

Labaik Sun 12-Apr-20 22:18:17

I didn't say that and I resent the implication that I don't think everyone in the NHS is doing their best. What I meant was that it's probably easier working when you probably have one nurse per patient rather than one nurse being responsible for several ventilators. Oh, and the people nursing him probably had adequate PPE as well. My heart is breaking at the thought of what our NHS are being put through at the moment. How dare you assume otherwise...

Callistemon Sun 12-Apr-20 22:06:50

Laibak I think every single nurse and every single doctor is giving the best care they possibly can to every single patient they are treating regardless of who,theynare.
I am upset that you think they may not be.
They are risking their own lives to care for others.

Elegran Sun 12-Apr-20 21:43:45

I believe ventilation itself is quite an invasive treatment, so as well as being more seriously ill to need that treatment, those who received it have the physical stress of the ventilation itself to recover from.