Boris..intensive care..

Trust Boris to lead from the front and actually get Coronavirus!

Germany spends at least twice the U.K. on health care, maybe that’s something that can be taken into consideration. Funny the politicians don’t seem to address that point.

Yes, vegansrock. There’ve been huge amounts of rationalising and justifying on here, and it’s continuing.

Very few seem to think we should be in full, military enforced lockdown, even with one of the worst death rates in the world. Lots of arguing that walking on local beaches and in the countryside is necessary.

qq it is called insurance based, but in truth it isn’t much difference to the way we pay for our NHS. It is a statutory insurance, with the option to top up if you do wish Hospitals are run not for profit and the level of spend per capita is approx 11% p.a. More than the U.K.

quizqueen can you not see irony in the fact that the penny pinching of the Tories has actually resulted in people staying in hospital longer and costing the system more than ever because the care services which would have enabled their release have been decimated?

Whitewave

"Perhaps you would like to ask that that particular post is deleted as it is so offensive, and not something we need to see."
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Why should it be reported?

It is neither the link to the story nor my post is personal to any poster is it?

To think some have been complain about GN taking posts /threads, why/when only when it suits.

This is a story in the media.

Today’s death reports are higher than any day in Italy. So maybe those who said Italians were somehow different and it wouldn’t happen here will think again.

Ilovecheese Fri 10-Apr-20 17:52:33

'Pogs are you confusing comments made on this forum with comments made in the World Wide Web and beyond?
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Why would ask that?

I have given the courtesy of reading another posters link and subsequent comments and commented myself.

Others have obviously not been reading the thread and have made some out of order comments because they saw themselves in my firing line, irony one could say.

Yes give up booze and fags, common people and all will be well.

Good points quizqueen

Whitewave

"You do appear to have an obsession about people wishing other people ill, and I really would prefer you kept such things to yourself."
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You go too far!

Whitewave

You asked a question, I answered it!

pogs why on Earth reiterate them for whatever reason on here. That is too bad of you. Perhaps you would like to ask that that particular post is deleted as it is so offensive, and not something we need to see.

You do appear to have an obsession about people wishing other people ill, and I really would prefer you kept such things to yourself.

Pogs are you confusing comments made on this forum with comments made in the rest of the World Wide Web and beyond?

The NHS was set up in the 1940s to offer basic treatment for 40 odd million people. How can the same system cope now treating almost double that number with very expensive life extending operations and drugs and life enhancing procedures, some unnecessary (in my opinion), as well as coping with addicts, people generally living longer and the breath of mental health issues many people claim to have. It would need every penny of tax we pay for it to be perfect to suit everyone.

The German system is being praised for coping with this virus and their medical care is insurance based so, if you desire a system like that, then there is a need to move towards the same sort of thing. Giving up fags and alcohol would probably cover the monthly premium so there's no excuse that everyone couldn't afford it!...and nothing is more important than one's health. Isn't that so?

I am confused now, who has said the other awful things?

Greymar Whitewave.

They are the words of Steve Hedley, the assistant chief of the Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers Union that a poster had raised on this thread and to which my post of 10-Apr-20 13:14:15 was intended for. I said :-

" If your politics decides whether you hope someone lives or dies then you need to re-evaluate yourself.

There is a time for politics and there is a time to be human."

What followed was posters must have saw themselves in my firing line and it appears obviously did not bother to read other posters engaged in the thread.

I can’t honestly remember seeing such posts.

This is an outrage that people feel able to say such things. They must be reported ASAP

Apparently this odious man has been suspended pending investigation. He hasn’t denied posting his vile remarks on a public platform and he has refused to apologise. What is there to investigate?

Are those sentiments all posted by people on GN pogs?

Are the above form this forum and if so, why haven't they been reported?

trisher.

"Politics has always decided if people lived or died. The deaths were just not quite so public. My mother died in hospital waiting for a care package. "
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My mother died as you might remember because you took me to task once for raising the matter, in one of the top 10 worst hospitals during Labour's administration of the NHS.

There seems to be a lack of remembrance that we had the FRANCIS REPORT which was scathing.

And Yes some do need to re-evaluate themselves when they happily say :-

: 'I don't want to offend you but if Bojo pops his clogs I'm throwing a party.'

"I hope the whole cabinet of Tory b*st*rds get it too.'

" I hope the whole cabinet and higher echelons of the Tory party have been touching various bits of him.

'I do however have genuine concern for all his women and children.'
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Pantglas2what do you want me to say? Of course people die, but if there is proper funding we can ensure that that experience is as easy as possible, and that their wishes are honoured. The NHS and the care system is in chaos and lack of funding is the main cause.

I have just read that Boris is taking some short walks alongside resting as part of his recovery. It’s all sounding very positive for him.