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GabriellaG54 Sat 25-Apr-20 10:09:46

Maccies drive through will be for C-19 testing (today's Mail online)

Callistemon Sat 25-Apr-20 09:53:44

We never went to McDonald's before lockdown.

If I lived near the sea I'd be going for a walk on the beach and if I was younger, might go surfing.
People are allowed to cycle so why not surfing?
Unless someone had to travel to get there.

Calendargirl Sat 25-Apr-20 08:50:42

The pictures of people surfing in Cornwall I believe, on the News last night. That would have been clamped down on a couple of weeks ago. I expect we’ll see much more of that sort of thing now as summer beckons.

Daisymae Sat 25-Apr-20 08:44:48

Definitely more traffic yesterday. People need to get back to work as money is running out, many people live month to month. There will come a time when each of us will have to weigh up the risks and make our own decisions. I don't think that the government is holding a lot of sway at the moment.

SueH49 Sat 25-Apr-20 01:20:30

I think that around me (Victoria Australia) activity has definitely increased in the last week or so. We are being told our curve has flattened. I think many people here look at the numbers in other countries and think we are fine. Our statistics look and are good - as of today a total of 6675 confirmed cases in Australia, 5136 of which have recovered, 79 unfortunately died but only 138 in hospital and only 29 on ventilators. In many cases I think these low figures have made people take the threat less seriously than perhaps they should and the rules are being bent or in some cases outright broken. I will add that our restrictions have not been anywhere as hard as yours.

I think when this is all over people will pretty much go back to their own ways, a large proportion of the population (worldwide) will not be in a hurry to give up what they see as their right and freedom to live as they wish too.

MissAdventure Sat 25-Apr-20 00:34:46

Ah, yes, I see the point about businesses which could have stayed open but didn't.

I have also read (somewhere, can't remember) that Boris is being leaned on to start easing up on 'the rules'.

FlyingSolo Sat 25-Apr-20 00:19:09

I think some if not all of these places reopening are doing so because they always could have been open according to government guidelines. They perhaps now feel more prepared to deal with social distancing etc than they did when it first happened. That doesn't mean they actual will manage the social distancing well though.

I don't think the government have relaxed their guidelines yet at all. It is more that some businesses, councils and police were more strict about the guidelines than they were told they had to be and have now reconsidered.

And as for what people are doing, I think that is partly down to their willingness to follow the guidelines and as time goes on that willingness is changing for a variety of reasons. One of the reasons it is changing is because in the beginning shock and fear played a part in making the public take it seriously

maddyone Sat 25-Apr-20 00:18:43

I think it’s extremely worrying. With deaths in hospital still running between 500 and 700 daily, others dying in care homes and at home, no one can pretend that this is over. All that will happen is the deaths will go up.

Artdecogran Sat 25-Apr-20 00:16:04

MissAdventure, I don’t think any of this is planned at all. It’s just people reverting to their normal way of life, doing it how they used to. We will just have to see what happens to infection/death rates.

MissAdventure Fri 24-Apr-20 23:50:17

It was only a day or two ago that I was reading that The Range was being urged to close.
It doesn't seem to be well planned, this return to 'normal'.

May7 Fri 24-Apr-20 23:43:53

harrigran same here too. Neighbours sitting in front gardens on chairs, children visiting grandparents. Family groups in back gardens. Me and DH in back garden drawbridge up ....music on. Locked down and staying that way until we have to go out shopping for elderly parents also locked in. Stopped trying to understand them just keeping away from them

Fiachna50 Fri 24-Apr-20 23:39:01

We are still under lockdown, I don't understand this. I will not be going out until the government instructs us further and rather than opening McDonalds Id rather see the dentists and opticians opening first. Not fast food though I do like their coffee and ice cream.

harrigran Fri 24-Apr-20 23:35:50

Well I am going nowhere, we have the highest rate of infection outside of London.
DH and I had a walk around the perimeter of our estate this afternoon and there were so many people about I was glad to get home.
A couple at the bottom of our street had their DD and GC visit and they were sitting in the garden and children playing in the street.

Niobe Fri 24-Apr-20 23:22:12

Macdonald’s could have kept their carry out business open but chose to shut down. B&q could have kept open to sell a lot of stuff e.g plumbing bits and pieces or electrical items needed for emergency repairs but chose to close down. Now they have chosen to reopen. I doubt that Macdonald’s will allow customers to eat in.

MissAdventure Fri 24-Apr-20 22:53:51

It seems strange, to me, to start with MacDonalds and B & Q.

JenniferEccles Fri 24-Apr-20 22:47:25

I think the slow trickle of shops and other premises opening might turn out to be a good way to minimise the adverse effects of the lockdown on the economy.

I expect a lot of people who are in the vulnerable category as well as the very elderly will continue to isolate as much as possible whilst younger fitter people will take advantage of the new openings.

I did a supermarket shop today and there was definitely more traffic around.

Hetty58 Fri 24-Apr-20 22:41:32

Bopeep14, if you go back to normal, you're just in the next 'batch' of people to catch it! Lock down was only a strategy to slow down the infection rate.

Bopeep14 Fri 24-Apr-20 22:35:49

I was beginning to think the lockdown was over and nobody told me.

Seriously though people have been off work over a month and will have run out of money, so the ones who can, have gone back to work, especially as the government eased restrictions on car use.

I know my family would jump at the chance of going back to work, as they are really struggling to pay bills and buy food.

What I want to know is what will happen to those who are on the shielding list do we go back to normal and look after grandchildren if parents are told to go back to work?

MayBee70 Fri 24-Apr-20 22:19:36

We noticed that there seemed to be a lot more cars driving past today.

Niobe Fri 24-Apr-20 22:05:18

B&Q units are opening tomorrow at 8am . I think the trickle will turn into a flood over the next couple of weeks but I don't feel the need to change my ways just yet. I shall continue with my one-stop shop once a week and continue to avoid public transport.

Hetty58 Fri 24-Apr-20 22:01:59

A lot of local people have ignored the lockdown and had one big long 'Bank Holiday' type extended party anyway.

Why do people want to 'get back to normal'? That's where it started. Does nobody appreciate the need and opportunity for change?

I think as a teenager and young adult I would have been tempted to 'surface' obey the rules. We really do feel invincible when young. I'd join the local runners who only separate when near the road - just in case the police are about.

There's a group of teenagers, too, who run around the streets with their faces hidden!

SueDonim Fri 24-Apr-20 21:52:23

Everyone still seems to be sticking to the rules here, for now. I got quite excited earlier this evening when I heard a plane go over!

Callistemon Fri 24-Apr-20 21:17:42

I think it would and I would like to have a test to see if I have had it already.

I did say to DH that we could be getting into a rut and the longer we stay in this rut the more difficult it will be to resume normal life.
This comes on top of a miserable wet winter when we didn't feel inclined to go out unless we had to - although we did.

Artdecogran Fri 24-Apr-20 20:54:45

Mac Donald’s has announced it is opening again from May. There are reports and photos of increased traffic and hospitals resuming more normal procedures from next week. I have noticed more traffic on the A30 near me. Have we just got fed up and decided to just resume normal life?
In Pride and Prejudice Mr Bennett says that he will soon forget the errors that he has made and revert to type. It’s the same when someone who has successfully dieted and lost weight, as soon as they stop dieting they revert back to old habits. Are we all destined to revert back to our old ways sooner rather than later.
The statistics that we have are unreliable at best, so perhaps people are thinking that there is no reason to stay at home, other than to save the nhs from imploding, and perhaps the young and healthy feel invincible.
If we had all been tested and we discovered that in a population of 67 million, say 60 million people had already had the virus and ‘only’ 20,000 had died would that have made a difference to what we will do?
I know that for those of living with health problems we will want to stay separated until it is safe.
Before I get jumped on I would like to say I am not putting forward any opinion, just asking questions.