Gransnet forums

Chat

Piers Morgan’s interview with Nicola Sturgeon

(86 Posts)
Elizabeth1 Mon 11-May-20 10:56:48

What did you think of Piers Morgan’s interview this morning with Nicola sturgeon and Please please intelligent answers only.

Rosalyn69 Mon 11-May-20 14:01:32

I don’t like Nicola Sturgeon per se but I have a huge respect for her. She has great leadership skills and seems to have full grasp of what she’s talking about.
Here in Wales we have this Drakeford chap.....no comment.

SirChenjin Mon 11-May-20 14:00:04

Here’s an article that gives a bit more info www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-52578939

SirChenjin Mon 11-May-20 13:58:28

Fair point janeainsworth grin

I agree Elegran - we’re further behind here and Sturgeon was clear in her recent statement that it was one of the key reasons why we’re not at the point of being able to ease ‘lockdown’ any further here.

Elizabeth1 Mon 11-May-20 13:57:25

How I enjoyed these comments thank you so much all pretty civilised. Mind you I recall visiting the head of the charity I worked for in London. ( I’m Scottish)Who it seemed had little or no knowledge of Scottish law they were for removing the meagre extra pennies given to care staff for a certain qualification when I piped in saying sorry but Scottish law says care staff cannot work without this qualification what does that tell you - one half of the organisation were unaware of this not so little difference making me believe some have knowledge and some do not regardless of which country we live in it seems by all accounts that NS says there is a higher risk at the moment to Scotland and it’s the stance we need to keep to keep the ratio number down. Sorry for the rant everyone wink

Grannyjay Mon 11-May-20 13:53:26

I think I touched a raw nerve Paddyanne ?

Elegran Mon 11-May-20 13:51:59

Isn't that the same as I was saying? - London numbers may be decreasing but Scottish ones are not matching the fall yet.

MawB Mon 11-May-20 13:42:02

This is not the one I meant, but it is useful.

MawB Mon 11-May-20 13:38:58

I hate to disagree with you Elegran and indeed rarely do, but the graph with the coloured lines showed a sharper decrease in the London figures and at least one showed the NW had more cases. If we look at per capita figures Scotland and Wales are not yet doing well enough.

paddyanne Mon 11-May-20 13:32:24

Grannyjay maybe you should have a word with Nicola's granny who is ENGLISH She might be able to set you right...Like most of us that I know in the Independence movement I also have an English son in law and GD ,english cousins and uncles and ( god help ius all) ENGLISH friends .I get on very well with them all .OUR problem is Westminster seems you find that hard to understand.
Imagine ....you have a business its doing very well ,the company down the road isn't doing as well BUT its bigger and a wee bit of a bully so it forces you to hand over ALL your income and it gives you pocket money back...it also borrows money and tells you that 10% of everything it borrows is YOUR debt.That money they've taken off you is spent on extravagances that you dont want or need.things like a gardenbridge that costs £45 MIllion even though its never built or rail networks you'll never use and replacing sewers in a country you dont live or work in .THATS our problem WE hand over all our revenue and westminster spends it on stuff THEY think THEY need we are given debts we haven't accrued and stuck with budgets we shouldn't havve to adhere to.
Scotland is a wealthy country ....just one of our products is 25% of ALL food and drink exports from the UK ...and theres more much more .
Independence is NORMAL we were taken into the union against our will and its taken us 300+ years to get enough people behind us that might make our indepndence a reality .tThere have been over 100 countries who have gained independence from the UK ....NONE of them have asked to come back .We would rather have good neighbours than bad masters ,after all it was a TREATY that was signed ,any country who signs a treaty can walk away from it without permission...didn't England decide to do just that with the EU ?

Elegran Mon 11-May-20 13:32:22

I wish too that it was made clear that Scottish figures (and probably figures for Wales and the North of England, too) are behind those for London and Southern England, not higher. It was said weeks ago that London was a week (at least) ahead of the rest of the country, so the peak would be later. The rise started later, so of course the peak has been reached later, and of course the numbers won't drop as soon. That should be taken into account when any relaxation is considered. What FitzJames doesn't necessarily FitzHerbert.

janeainsworth Mon 11-May-20 13:25:32

Sirchenin Remind me what the Leave campaign wrote on the side of those buses again?
That was an outright lie, as opposed to subtle manipulation. Credit where credit’s due wink

Oldbat1 Mon 11-May-20 13:18:17

I would believe Nicola Sturgeon over Boris Johnson waffle any time! She is correct in saying too early for Scotland as their R level is higher than London. I really believe this Government only considers London. The North West and North East have a higher incidence of COVID.

SirChenjin Mon 11-May-20 12:52:29

Or - devolved administrations if you prefer.

SirChenjin Mon 11-May-20 12:51:50

Of course - all Govts do that to further their political goal Jane. Remind me what the Leave campaign wrote on the side of those buses again?

janeainsworth Mon 11-May-20 12:38:39

As Callistemon says, the rate of infection In Scotland is higher than in England so it makes sense for Nicola Sturgeon to be more cautious about easing lockdown.
That’s not a reflection on the Westminster Government. Boris has been under a lot of pressure from certain quarters to ease lockdown much further, and I was pleasantly surprised that he didn’t cave in and stuck to what seems sensible.

As an aside, here’s an article that some might find interesting, about how the SNP over the years has subverted their use of language to further their cause.
www.aforceforgood.uk/single-post/2018/11/21/The-SNP-is-not-a-Government

SirChenjin Mon 11-May-20 12:32:35

Jane Godley’s take on NS is very funny - she’s done a number of them and all are very accurate and apt. I get the feeling they are a fairly accurate representation of NS’s personal thoughts grin

MawB Mon 11-May-20 12:29:59

www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwjA3afl2avpAhWHTsAKHTu6DNEQwqsBMAB6BAgaEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FJaneyGodley%2Fstatus%2F1259511252629454852&usg=AOvVaw3EUprmBrbp7IDke4hb4mzo
But I do have a laugh at Janey Godley’s take on it (so I believe does Nicola)

SirChenjin Mon 11-May-20 12:26:40

No-one loves Scotland more than myself

What are you basing that on?!

I agree Maw, the most measured approaches have all come from the women in charge. Having witnessed the behaviour in Westminster over the last year this staunch unionist is very much reconsidering - England seems to becoming a lite version of the US, with its own idiot at the helm.

Elegran Mon 11-May-20 12:22:23

I am no fan of the SNP stand on Scottish Independence (I think we are "better together") but in this coronavirus crisis I think she is doiung well. She heads up the briefings sensibly and makes clear statements, and she seems to actually understand the situation, unlike Boris Johnson who often looks as though he has been dropped into it unexpectedly and hasn't yet caught up.

She does seem to bring out extreme reactions - I know a couple of Scottish ladies who regard her as the devil incarnate, mostly, it seems, because she "changes her clothes several times a day". No idea why that is a sin.

MawB Mon 11-May-20 12:14:38

In general I am not a fan of Nicola Sturgeon, and certainly not a supporter of independence for Scotland but have come to thinking is it predominantly the women political leaders who have a handle on the situation?
Jacinda Arden, Angela Merkel, Nicola Sturgeon?

mrsgreenfingers56 Mon 11-May-20 12:10:53

I feel like NS is some sort of Scottish political terrorist, we are supposed to be a United Kingdom and I don't like her attitude at all. No-one loves Scotland more than myself and I have Scottish heritage but she just has a bee in her bonnet.

Grannyjay Mon 11-May-20 12:02:01

I’m sorry but I do feel Nicola Sturgeon does not like the British. All you hear is the Scottish people over and over again. What ever happens it’s the fault of the English. Look what she said about PPE going to only the English. She is offensive. That said, I very much like Scottish people, just not her and politics and behaviour.

Callistemon Mon 11-May-20 11:57:33

At what point does the public need to start taking some personal responsibility?

Callistemon Mon 11-May-20 11:55:15

The thing is that the number of cases is rising in Scotland so she does need to make different decisions based on that.

Furret Mon 11-May-20 11:54:09

She is handling this very well and turns out herself every lunch time for the Scottish briefing.

I noticed both she and the Welsh FM have a signer behind them. How do deaf English people get their briefing news I wonder?