Now I understand why families shouldn't meet up.

We are seeing friends and family ( not all at the same time!) in our garden.Seating is arranged with tables and all over two metres apart.I bring out mugs of tea/coffee and plates with cake or biscuits on and put it on the larger table and stand back whilst they take theirs and we all sit down to chat.They leave their mugs and plates where they are when they go, and I load them onto the tray and take them indoors, put into the dishwasher and wash my hands, then wash the tray then wash my hands again, and later on, wipe down the chairs and table they have used in the garden.
A faff, yes, but worth it to see them.

I know families who just aren't bothering with all the rules. I don't know how they cope with that.
I think if they've decided to ignore the whole thing it will be easier for them to have no worries.
Until they are caught out, of course.

I'm more in the nervous wreck category.

annep1, I find it far easier to have no visitors except one friend or family member at a time, for a walk, then a sit and chat in the front garden.

I really don't want all the worry of wondering whether I've caught it. Having isolated since mid March, there's no point in ruining it all now. I'm hanging on until September, when possibly a vaccine will be available.

I heard on the news earlier the R number in Germany has increased to 1.79 today following the easing of their restrictions in recent weeks. Also today Spain has decided to lift the 14 day quarantine for arrivals from the UK so that we can enjoy our holidays in the Spanish sunshine and boost their tourism.

Anyone thinking too much too soon? I so hope I’m wrong but fear we’re heading for a set back

Dottydots, I think you caught it from somebody else, maybe someone asymptomatic:

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-incubation-period/

Maybe, if you plan to do it again, go over all the things that worried you this time ann, and put a plan of action in place.

Annepl, I've been left slightly breathless but it is gradually getting better. Thank you for asking.

NfkDumpling you have made me feel very slightly better.

Callistemon I hope you're right. I don't want to worry for 5 weeks.?

I'm off now - glass of red and The Young Montalbano which will cheer me up!

Be Aware

(apparently) although it is easy to forget, annep1
It depends on where your family has been as well.

Well I do wish I had asked for advice beforehand. You are all so sensible!

Dottydots are you ok now?

Dottydots I don't think that is possible. You must have been in contact with another source, possibly someone who was asymptomatic.

We had a birthday lunch for our SiL today at our DD2’s house with SiL and DGD and the other GPs. In the garden of course and the table kept us 1.5 to 2.00 metres apart. All the washing up has been left to DD and SiL to do in hot soapy water which I understand destroys the virus. Wipes were available in the loo and it was hot enough air dry hands. We felt close, although we weren’t and it was good.

I think this virus has got us all worked up
I think many people are.

We shall have a garden visit tomorrow. probably take our own glasses and cutlery.
I know I will need the loo but handwashing is the most important thing to remember.

Eg my sister and BiL have decided they want rheir children and gc to visit in their home. That is a risk they feel comfortable with. But their families are in contact with wider circles of people.

I would just add...In a way that is comfortable for us but also does not risk spreading the virus.

We all have to do our own risk assessments

That's the way we look at it, GG13, It's no longer a 'one size fits all' situation.

Covid-19 isn’t going away, there is not a credible vaccine.

We all have to do our own risk assessments . We have to act with / meet family members in a way that is comfortable for each of us.

Stress and Mental Health is going to be a huge problem in the coming months.

Better safe than sorry * Harrygran*. It's much too soon to return to stop being careful.
I'm still shocked at how I "mismanaged" the visit.

It seems as though everyone thinks it is fine to resume socialising.
Teenager opposite is having a party, sat and watched young people being dropped off, her parents left in someone elses car with cases of beer to party somewhere else. She lives next door to one of the first cases of the virus in our town.
More carloads of people arriving at flats followed by pizza deliveries, they don't have the space to distance themselves.
Meanwhile back at chateau harri I have not met with anyone for 17 weeks so I understand your misgivings.

It was Missadventure and I would have been quick to say that we arent stupid, we know what to do. I have been so careful to stick to the rules for cleaning and socially distanced walks and shopping deliveries. I could kick myself. I wish I had given it more thought. So please everyone be careful with your families.

DD and DSiL are visiting next weekend and staying the night!! That's because we have a large static caravan on our property that is used for visitors. They will bring their own food and bedding and clean it for us before they leave. I won't go in there for at least another week as a precaution.

Buying it was a good move. Before Covid it was used regularly by all the family.

We'll have our own picnics in the garden - plenty of room for social distancing and we'll probably do the same for breakfast the following morning if the weather is kind.

We're both really looking forward to it.

Annepl, you say you will now worry for two weeks. Well, I caught Covid 19 five weeks later from someone I mixed with who had it.

It was mentioned on briefings a while back that people are less likely to distance in relaxed family settings.

Nervous wreck is the right description. I wish I had got my tape measure out, and I didn't think of bring your own cup. It's just not worth the worry tbhn. I know families who just aren't bothering with all the rules. I don't know how they cope with that.

I think this virus has got us all worked up. I was the same with my sister when we formed our bubble. I thought she was uneasy all,of the time and relaxed a bit towards the end. It has me a nervous wreck!