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Pre mask shopping - will you?

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kittylester Thu 23-Jul-20 07:46:08

I was talking to my niece yesterday and she was telling me about lots of her friends hitting the shops before they are condemned to shopping in a mask.

Will you?

Elegran Thu 23-Jul-20 11:09:14

JenniferEccles says "There are so few cases of the virus in circulation now . . ." - but as many new cases (560) are being announced on July 23rd as in March when the lockdown began. If that was enough to cause the virus to spread then as it did, it is enough to cause a second wave now. It is still as much at large in the population now as it was then.

Masks were not made compulsory then - they should have been. We might not then have had so many cases and so many deaths.

Other countries are getting second or third waves, after taking it more seriously than us the first time round. Why risk repeating the whole thing?

MissAdventure Thu 23-Jul-20 11:10:06

If masks were banned there would probably be protesters fighting for the right to wear them.

Esspee Thu 23-Jul-20 11:13:38

On my last visit to the shops every customer was wearing them (Scotland). What I couldn’t understand is why staff were not?

EmilyHarburn Thu 23-Jul-20 11:19:31

Just a reminder that anyone wearing hearing aids must be very careful when they take off a mask that has elastic around the ears. Lots of people with hearing aids are loosing them.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 23-Jul-20 11:23:13

MayBee70

Also, the Scottish daily briefings are signed, something that doesn’t seem to have crossed the mind of the government here.

The English briefings are signed on the BBC News Channel

GrannyGravy13 Thu 23-Jul-20 11:32:33

Part of our business is supplying PHE, a badly fitted and fiddled with mask is absolutely no good to anyone, it could even be detrimental to the wearer.

Please do not touch your masks, put them on and remove them by the ties/loops place in a plastic bag before disposing.
I have no experience of reusable masks do they have to be washed at high temperatures? Do they have filters inside that are washable/disposable.

(I shall be wearing a mask if/when I go anywhere where it is required despite being asthmatic and someone that struggles with anything on her face)

maddyone Thu 23-Jul-20 11:43:59

When I went shopping with my elderly mother yesterday I noticed that far more people were wearing masks than a couple of weeks before. However there were still many non mask wearers. All change tomorrow. I do hope shops will refuse entry to people without a mask. I think people who can’t wear a mask should get a note saying as much from their medical practice, not a doctor’s note, the doctors have enough to do, but from the practice nurse. People should not be allowed to decide they can’t wear one themselves, the same as people are unable to say they’re not going to wear a seatbelt in a car.

Trying to get my elderly mother to touch it, pull it below her nose, take it off correctly, well what can I say. I cannot get her to understand and follow through the correct procedures. confused

NannyC2 Thu 23-Jul-20 11:45:21

I shall be going along tomorrow as per usual, but as I find breathing very difficult behind a mask I shall be carrying an exemption and a copy of the 2005 Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights regarding 'Consent' which states I cannot be forced to do something without my consent.
I will, of course, be respectful of others and keep my distance.

No proper scientific test has been done to establish the consequences of wearing masks over periods of time.

Anna Brees, an independant journalist, formerly working for the BBC did an interesting interview in the last couple of days about 'Keeping Britain Free.'

NannyJennyto3 Thu 23-Jul-20 11:48:35

I understand why we're being asked to wear a mask. However, I feel that it is a nail in the coffin for the high street. It is so uncomfortable wearing them, especially when you wear glasses and they steam up, that there is no pleasure in shopping and people are not going to go out to browse.

HootyMcOwlface Thu 23-Jul-20 11:49:16

I don’t like them but will wear one. I have had to wear one for just over half an hour on two occasions and I hated it. It makes me feel like I can’t breathe and then I get panicky and had a claustrophobic feeling. I’m such a ninny.

GagaJo Thu 23-Jul-20 11:49:54

craftyone

yes, I am well stashed here. I even bought butter to freeze. If I have to wear a face covering, it will slip down over my nose when I am in the shop, I am neither a sheep, anxious, brain washed or scared

My 2 year old grandson manages to wear a mask with no issue. Are you seriously saying as a supposedly rational adult you're incapable?

Make your own choices for yourself but if you have no community spirit, I hope you stay at home so you don't put others at risk.

Plenty of people in the US who refused to be sheep dying of the virus.

Teetime Thu 23-Jul-20 11:51:36

Just come back from M & S food several people already wearing masks with their noses out. A couple of others wearing gloves going from item to item having a fondle before choosing!

mcem Thu 23-Jul-20 11:54:00

Yesterday I visited Aldi, the Range and Tesco. Saw one (large and grumpy) man without a mask who also ignored social distancing. Amusing to see everyone else giving him a very wide berth and dirty looks, as far as masks allowed.
Since they've been compulsory here in Scotland for a week or so, they have simply become the norm.
Just get on with it.
Ps great respect for the clarity of NS's briefings. Her intelligent attitude has earned her (and the independent movement) much support c.f. the BJ and Westminster approach.

Rosalyn69 Thu 23-Jul-20 12:01:13

Just get on with it! I agree.
I am in Wales and it’s not mandatory but I wear one and so does my husband. I put it on before I leave the car and take it off when I get back. It’s really not an issue and not uncomfortable. You just have to get used to it. Don’t keep thinking about it and breathe normally.

annodomini Thu 23-Jul-20 12:01:38

If surgeons and all the rest of operating theatre staff can wear masks for hours on end, I can't believe that any of us has a reason for not wearing on for the half-hour or so it takes us to do a supermarket shop.
^No proper scientific test has been done to establish the consequences of wearing masks over periods of time."
Balderdash.

Callistemon Thu 23-Jul-20 12:04:01

The mask is to protect other people from you, craftyone!

Nannan2 Thu 23-Jul-20 12:05:00

Theyve probably been told not to challenge them because of what happened to that french bus driver- he refused to let someone on & got beaten to death for it! Something else for me to worry about for my bus driver son ??

Callistemon Thu 23-Jul-20 12:07:14

MissAdventure

If masks were banned there would probably be protesters fighting for the right to wear them.

Yes!

That's the British for you!!

MawB Thu 23-Jul-20 12:11:26

I find breathing very difficult behind a mask I shall be carrying an exemption and a copy of the 2005 Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights regarding 'Consent' which states I cannot be forced to do something without my consent

Does that apply to seatbelts and motor cycle helmets too NannyC2 ?

Possibly nobody can be forced to let you on to a bus or train or into a shop either? Or into a doctors surgery or (as I have just been) to pay for Hattie’s treatment at the vet?
Ridiculous!

Craftycat Thu 23-Jul-20 12:11:39

Yes. I did a big shop today as I dread wearing a mask. I am claustrophobic & it will be very difficult. I wore one briefly when having my hair cut on Tuesday & it was awful. Luckily my hairdresser is a friend so suggested I held a teatowel over my face instead which was better.
I hope DH will step up & do shopping but heaven only knows what he will bring home. A lot of wine & very little else I suspect.

Nannan2 Thu 23-Jul-20 12:13:57

Thing is theres so many reasons people are allowed not to wear them for, and how are they supposed to prove it if its not a visible reason or whatever? Anyone can carry an inhaler container around & 'say' theyre asmathic(or whatever) and no one would know if its true? How are shops/buses etc supposed to 'let people off' from wearing one? Do the folk have to have a medical letter or something on them to vouch for this? Its all just silly how government make up all the rules but dont give real info to back them up?!?

Craftycat Thu 23-Jul-20 12:16:34

Noticed that no staff were wearing a mask today. Resumably they will have to tomorrow too?

Taichinan Thu 23-Jul-20 12:16:34

Oh MawB that cartoon made me laugh out loud! Saw a couple with their masks like that in our local Tesco. That both had such long noses you'd have thought they'd have been only too happy to hide them!! Seriously though, I truly cannot understand the reluctance to mask up, uncomfortable/inconvenient though it may be. Psychologically, surely it's good to know that you're doing at least something to combat this awful bug.

maureen118 Thu 23-Jul-20 12:17:23

....a friend in Scotland who is exempt from wearing a mask for health reasons has had to wear one .... as the bus would not stop to pick her up at her bus stop !

Furret Thu 23-Jul-20 12:22:04

Very happy to know these refuseniks are staying away from shops. Reminds me of my late MiL saying she would never use decimal coins!