I’m beginning to feel sorry for Prince Andrew.

If you had photographic evidence that you met a man who later you claim abused you wouldn't you keep it? After all he initially denied even meeting her

Giuffre kept his photograph Callistemon

Why is it "spurious" lemon presumably the things we want for our DD and GD are what we would want for other people's or are you saying it is OK for other people's daughters to have sex with PA but not yours?

Sadly , yes believe me there are parents who do .

But he wasn't young either, nor handsome.

He was middle aged and portly. Every young girl's dream.

But he wasn’t an over weight 60 year old then

rich, handsome young prince

That was very many years ago!
He's an over weight man who's now 60. At least he doesn't sweat though.

Ellianne

I'm beginning to feel even more sorry for his daughters. They could do without all this.

Yes, I too feel for his daughters the most in all this.

I have no sympathy for PA in the slightest.... what took place 20 years ago ( from what we are fed by the press) is damaging to all and his poor daughters have to reap the shame of it all.... and his poor mum, our Queen.

Of course not trisher and neither would it be ok for my DD or GD to be any kind of a hostess/prostitute, although I couldn’t stop them if it was what they wanted to do.
Neither would I want them to be drug addicts or criminals.
You are using a spurious argument.

It's not a two way street. I know no men who would think this was ok. And believe me I have know some men for whom respect for women wasnt their highest priority but they wouldn't consider this.

And so would ladymuck

So presumably lemon you would think it was OK for your DD or GD?

ladymuck

No, I don't feel sorry for him. However, I think what happened is history now and should be laid to rest.
He was a rich, handsome young prince, who made friends with the wrong sort of people. I'm sure having sex with him wasn't the ordeal it's being made out to be; the girls were no doubt well-paid and enjoyed the jet-set lifestyle while it lasted.

Good post....this sums up the situation in a nutshell.

Dazzled by exciting parties, awash with money and with an eye to the main chance I can see why girls might well be attracted to the lifestyle on offer even if the price to pay is sex with an older man.
I remember being saddened in Monte Carlo to see what looked like very young girls all dressed up trying to catch the eye of the wealthy men around. At that level it can be a two way street.

Galaxy

Which is why we ask the adults around them to behave like grown ups not sleazy predators.

Yes!!

Sex with someone like Prince Andrew or any man age 41 surely ?

And fathers.

I don't have daughters only sons but they've had their fair share of exploits. But I was wondering would anyone say to their 17 year old daughter (or GD) that having sex with someone like Prince Andrew is OK? I know I wouldn't like it and hope I would be able to help her out of something like that, but I'm aware there are women who would think it was acceptable.

Which is why we ask the adults around them to behave like grown ups not sleazy predators.

Sounds like mine maddyone told us she was staying with her freind but when we went to drop a key off to her her mother said I'd got it wrong they were staying with me.... we trailed round the town until we found her.Then there was the time she called the social work dept because we wouldn't let her go to a rave!! The social worker said we had to let her make her own decisions ...she was 13 !! Not in my house I said . SHE is the nicest most caring woman with a heart of pure gold now and the best mum despite her health issues that make her life difficult and we are proud of her every day for coping in such awful circumstances .Bt I wouldn't wish a teenage girl on my worst enemy

Not sure about that Callistemon
Probably yours are, but mine, who knows?
I certainly had some interesting experiences bringing them up, too many to mention. But the day my darling girl got her tongue pierced was interesting, she was underage so actually it was illegal. I’ll just say she doesn’t have that piercing anymore. Or the day she went with friends to sleep on the beach, where apparently the drug addicts hang out. Of course she told us she was sleeping at her friend’s house. Ended up with the police out looking for them. Her brother was a snitch. I was gullible enough to believe 16 year old son who told me that the nightclub he was going to actually had an under 18s night where no alcohol was sold. And much more.
But they also made me very proud on many occasions.

maddyone

You’re never boring Callistemon. On the other hand, I maybe

Thank you.
However, I think I am!!

But I think that you and I have produced interesting children

everyone is entitled to a private sex life and as long as it doesn't hurt children or animals ,then I feel you are free to do what you like
Virginia Roberts WAS a child according to the law of HER country

Anniebach

My criticism of Megan And Harry is caused by their words and actions not by what is in the press.

So if not based on what Is in the press does that mean you have some other way of hearing their words.

Never claimed to be miss marple.

No comment on how the press you distrust is your source of information about them?

Spell it how you want, but don’t pretend to be on high when you purposefully disrespect how someone spells their name.

Lizzie and Charlie are nicknames

Meghan and Megan are different names.

It’s not hard.

But I’d love to see where you respected Meghan to begin with? I’ve certainly never seen it.