I'm probably speaking out of turn because as previously posted, I've never been to a meeting. Only this comes across loud and clear, if members greet a new person with "you can't sit there, that's Ethel's chair" they are straightaway giving a prospective member the impression they aren't really welcome. Just wondering if that is ever put forward by whoever chairs the gatherings. Surely it must occur to anyone, that some people have to muster courage to try and find there way with what is an established body and break the ice. Maybe prospective new attendees could be recently bereaved, lonely, new to an area, but I can imagine with the sort of knock backs discussed on this thread some will not want to persevere. If such women's organisations do want to recruit new members then allowing the "that's Ethel's chair" to continue is counter productive to that. How about a " welcome! come and sit here where Ethel usually parks herself, and talk to me, if she arrives at a later stage, I'll introduce you and then at least you'll have got to know two of us" 