Whole school bubbles being made to self-isolate?

But Davidhs schools closing totally should be the last thing to happen after everything else has been shut down first.

Again, I would be fascinated in the qualification you possess on this subject.

If we want total safety schools would be closed because virus IS going to spread. The warm sunny summer weather that has limited spread is over now we are seeing cases increase sharply without a vaccine we are all going to be exposed. Thankfully the death rate so far is low, medics are much better at treating patients than at the start of the epidemic.

Teachers are taking the same risk a parents, it’s no different, children take virus home infecting parents so teachers are not a special case. Sending the whole year group home if a couple of pupils are ill is a chaotic policy that is going to disrupt schooling all year.

Testing as it’s being done now is never going cope with every adult or child that coughs or sneezes, however much they spend

Thank you Ellianne. You don’t need a degree in Logic to work it out.

The damage to the economy will be far worse when everything has to close for a second time. If predictions are correct then this second wave could be longer, higher and more deadly than the first. Fingers crossed ? those predictions are incorrect, but somehow ...

The rush to get businesses like pubs and restaurants open again too soon is to blame. Had we held our nerve and waited until infection levels were way down then this need not have happened. False economy. Now a second lockdown is inevitable.
Let's be up front here, Furrret is right. Pubs are not known for being the sort of establishments where people naturally give each other a wide berth. Landlords are happy to pack in as many customers as they can to make as much money as they can. I think the government bent over backwards in this area and it was wrong.

sharon103

Davidhs

The only sane was to handle Coronavirus in school is to treat it like any cold or flu. If you are ill stay off school and keep away from grandparents, the risk to children is very low.

I totally agree with you.

This isn’t ‘any cold or flu’ - do you not get that?

Our next door next door neighbours’ daughter is in Y13 at the local secondary school and the whole of Y13 have been sent home for a fortnight to self isolate as a boy in her class has tested positive.

This is starting to happen all over the country.

The rush to get businesses like pubs and restaurants open again too soon is to blame. Had we held our nerve and waited until infection levels were way down then this need not have happened. False economy. Now a second lockdown is inevitable.

vegansrock

If there aren’t enough teachers to operate safely the school has to close. What about pregnant teachers?

Even teachers who were on the shielding list are now back in school teaching as normal.
Same with shielding pupils.
I don't know what will happen when shielding is 'unpaused'.

If there aren’t enough teachers to operate safely the school has to close. What about pregnant teachers?

I would be interested in those who make such pronouncements just giving us a brief description of their qualifications relating to their knowledge.

What about teachers?
Many teachers are grandparents.
Many teachers are vulnerable, and even clinically extremely vulnerable.
Many teachers have spouses, parents and children who are clinically extremely vulnerable.
Is the risk to them 'extremely low'?
And I wouldn't bank on the 'extremely low' claim.
This is a novel virus. There are many unknowns.

Davidhs

The only sane was to handle Coronavirus in school is to treat it like any cold or flu. If you are ill stay off school and keep away from grandparents, the risk to children is very low.

I totally agree with you.

LauraNorder

I would be interested, if we have any scientists among us, in knowing how the testing works.
Does the sample have to grow in a Petri dish to show that it’s positive? If so surely we don’t have the laboratory capacity nor trained people to read the results. The whole idea of testing seems impossible. Would we have to test our children every day as they may show a negative result today but be infected tomorrow?
Sorry if I’m being naive but the sciences are not my area.

I don’t think you can grow anything regarding Covid because it isn’t alive unlike bacteria. It’s an interesting question, though and I hope someone can answer it.

We have 2 sets of grandsons at different secondary schools in same area . One school sent whole year group home to isolate after a postive test from one pupil but the other only sent home people sitting in close proximity. Confused!

I would be interested, if we have any scientists among us, in knowing how the testing works.
Does the sample have to grow in a Petri dish to show that it’s positive? If so surely we don’t have the laboratory capacity nor trained people to read the results. The whole idea of testing seems impossible. Would we have to test our children every day as they may show a negative result today but be infected tomorrow?
Sorry if I’m being naive but the sciences are not my area.

Rotas for one. All of this has been suggested a hundred times before. A track and trace system that functions.

Growstuff instead of constantly pointing out that there cannot be social distancing in a school but agreeing that young people need to be educated, please put forward some workable suggestions.

Davidhs

The only sane was to handle Coronavirus in school is to treat it like any cold or flu. If you are ill stay off school and keep away from grandparents, the risk to children is very low.

This is rubbish.
And if it was true, how about the teachers?

Thank you growstuff, you are are an the money there.
This is going to make the care home scandal cover up look like a well oiled machine.
The general public are only just waking up to the lies regards schools.

Laura No, the government can't cover every eventuality and there can never be zero risk, but why wasn't the government taking any notice when teachers and people who have actually been inside a school classroom were saying that there cannot be social distancing in schools? Nearly all the photos I saw accompanying articles about getting pupils back to school had a handful of children in them, not a full class, which gave a misleading impression.

How can anybody in a school take responsibility when the classrooms aren't big enough for the number of children and they are often poorly ventilated? If anybody else was crammed into a confined space such as a classroom for hours at a time, there would be an outcry. The virus doesn't know it's entering a school premises.

Sensible post Laura.

A very good post Laura.

Where I live, because a child has confirmed Covid the whole school has been sent home and told to isolate.

There is no easy answer, good mental health, good physical health, continuous education and a strong economy are completely linked together and one cannot exist without the other.
Governments provide guidelines. Health Care workers, educationalists, businesses, parents, In fact all of us have to assess risk, exercise good judgement and common sense and try to bravely carry on whilst hand washing, distancing and mask wearing wherever possible.
I am not defending government as mistakes have inevitably been made during this unprecedented crisis but no government can cover every eventually in every situation. We must do our best and take responsibility for our actions, including heads of hospitals, schools, businesses and homes.

My 7 year old Dgd’s class were sent home after 8 days back at school along with the teacher and classroom assistant as a child in the class tested positive for corona virus, though her sister in another class can still go to school. I’m glad as she has just started school, and where do you draw the contacts line?

DS and Dil have both had to have time off to look after her. This is just going to happen all the time, as most posters have said.