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Are we being watched on GN by the press?

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25Avalon Tue 24-Nov-20 09:22:37

I see a question on Mumsnet by a mum about her in-laws not helping with the children when she had to go to hospital with a broken bone has made an article in the Daily Mail. Does this mean the press are trawling our forums for potential “news” articles? I know we are anonymous but still!

Daddima Tue 24-Nov-20 19:59:51

FoghornLeghorn I’ve just read an online article from the Daily Mirror quoting Mumsnet posters saying putting up Christmas trees this early is ‘vulgar and tacky’.

bikergran Tue 24-Nov-20 19:51:40

I'm sure many of you will remember when we had "profiles" They would be highlighted in Blue, many of us put info on and some photos. Seems a bit scary now looking back!

FoghornLeghorn Tue 24-Nov-20 16:45:49

Stories frequently appear in the press that have been lifted from Mumsnet. Websites such as Mumsnet/Gransnet/any other you care to name are not private clubs. Neither are they ‘safe spaces’ as I’ve seen it said on MN in which to get advice or discuss problems. They are open to the world for all to read and anyone thinking otherwise is naive in the extreme. If you read the small print you will see that anything you post becomes the property of Mumsnet/Gransnet for them to use however they choose. It is in their interest for posts to be lifted by the press as it increases the clicks they receive. Posters should remember that these websites don’t exist as a public service. They exist for one reason - to make money for their owner.

merlotgran Tue 24-Nov-20 16:37:54

I always chuckle when a genuine researcher is introduced by HQ and we are invited to comment or take part in whatever it is they are after.

The replies are usually a firm but polite, 'You must be kidding!' grin

Marydoll Tue 24-Nov-20 16:33:15

I forgot to say, she was a registered user of GN. A bit sneaky I thought!

Marydoll Tue 24-Nov-20 16:26:59

When my daughter's wedding was cancelled due to lockdown, I was approached by a BBC researcher, asking if I would be willing to be interviewed on the BBC news to talk about our our feelings.

So the answer to the OP's question is a resounding, YES!

Fennel Tue 24-Nov-20 16:26:53

Elegran - thanks for your post. I reported my concern to GNHQ at the time,. They checked out the member who had pm'd me and said they were genuine.
I still "hae me doots!"

Doodledog Tue 24-Nov-20 16:23:14

Oof! I missed that.

It’s very inconsiderate to post identifiable details about others in a public place. Even if they are true (and there is always another side to a story) it is very unkind, I think.

JenniferEccles Tue 24-Nov-20 16:04:25

There was one of those on GN a few months ago Doodledog where a lot of posters expressed concern about the amount of detail posted, including photos which meant that another person in the story could have been identified.

Doodledog Tue 24-Nov-20 14:38:06

It doesn't take a photograph, and it's not just the grandchildren - anyone who is a 'player' in the story can be identified with enough information. There have been numerous stories that have gone viral after someone has posted on a public forum, and others involved in the situation can be easily recognised.

I'm thinking of those situations where a bride asks for all presents to cost at least £X so that she can cover the cost of the wedding, or stories about incidents in schools. All it takes is for the identity of one person in the thread to be spotted by a colleague or neighbour who has heard some gossip, and suddenly everyone is identifiable, even if they had no idea that their lives or whether or not they were at fault were being discussed online.

People with user names that identify them as X'sGran are even more at risk from this if they post about actual situations rather than abstract principles.

JenniferEccles Tue 24-Nov-20 13:15:02

There are often stories discussed on here which would make the poster very recognisable, and if they are accompanied by photos there is no doubt.

The problem arises when enough information is given involving others who have no idea a certain scenario is being relayed on here.

This is especially worrying when, as others have said, photos of grandchildren accompany the saga.

Elegran Tue 24-Nov-20 12:42:17

Fennel

Are our pms open to the public?
If not, how can they be kept private?
eg if someone from the press registers as a member here he/she can then pm any other member .
This happened to me once, but I found out the other person was a genuine member.

Fennel Your PMs are private from the public and from other members. I don't know whether GN as site owner can read them, but I don't imagine they can be bothered. You could ask GNHQ directly about this.

If a person from the press registers as a member and PMs you, they don't get to know your own personal email address, their message is sent to wait in your Gransnet inbox until you log in to look at it, so you are still private from the sender. You can block anyone if you don't want any more messages from them, and if you choose to reply to them, that is up to you. If I had any suspicion that the message was from a media person, I wouldn't answer it.

Urmstongran Tue 24-Nov-20 12:31:30

Me neither dragonfly.

dragonfly46 Tue 24-Nov-20 12:17:10

This is why I never post pictures of the DGC!

Urmstongran Tue 24-Nov-20 12:13:56

Indeed.

Marmight Tue 24-Nov-20 12:09:26

This thread is a timely reminder to us all hmm

Riverwalk Tue 24-Nov-20 12:05:40

Fennel

Are our pms open to the public?
If not, how can they be kept private?
eg if someone from the press registers as a member here he/she can then pm any other member .
This happened to me once, but I found out the other person was a genuine member.

Anyone who registers as a member can presumably send a PM.

As owners of the site, GNHQ can read PMs, whether they bother to do so on a regular basis I have no idea.

Riverwalk Tue 24-Nov-20 12:03:23

merlotgran

I'm dismayed by how many photos of DGCs appear on Gransnet.

A small child can't give permission.

I've long expressed amazement at this.

Children deserve privacy - not have their every move chronicled by grandma on a public forum for all the world to see.

There was once a photo of GC with classmates clearly visible and easily recognisable. Some posters must just feel the need to share!

bonfirebirthday Tue 24-Nov-20 11:47:06

A member of my son in law's family posted photographs of the 2 grandchildren on a media website. She did not ask permission to use the photographs. My daughter's friend came across them and informed my daughter. The photographs were immediately removed. It had not occurred to the young woman that it was unacceptable to post photographs of the young children on a public forum.

FannyCornforth Tue 24-Nov-20 11:42:37

PMs are private Fennel
GNHQ say that they don't read them, but I'm not so sure as I'm pretty certain that MNHQ do.

FarNorth Tue 24-Nov-20 11:41:28

If you want to post about a personal problem, it's a good idea to change some of the details.
For instance, maybe the mumsnet person mentioned had something else wrong, not a broken bone, and maybe it was her own parents who refused, not her in-laws.
Obviously, I have no idea about that person but little changes can hide your identity while still posting what you want to say.

FannyCornforth Tue 24-Nov-20 11:41:00

Has anyone found someone they know on here?

My A level English teacher went onto become very famous. I mentioned this on a thread on Mumsnet, and an old friend who was in the same class got in touch.

Fennel Tue 24-Nov-20 11:40:52

Are our pms open to the public?
If not, how can they be kept private?
eg if someone from the press registers as a member here he/she can then pm any other member .
This happened to me once, but I found out the other person was a genuine member.

FannyCornforth Tue 24-Nov-20 11:38:00

25Avalon

I guess this is why some GNers send private messages in response to an OP - provided the OP isn’t fake of course.

Even if the OP was 'fake' - you would still be able to send them private messages.
I would have thought that that would be even more risky.

merlotgran Tue 24-Nov-20 11:29:08

I'm dismayed by how many photos of DGCs appear on Gransnet.

A small child can't give permission.