Rather pay than give in

Summerlove

MawBe
(Which little jab was that? )

That only only the posts you agree with are sensible.
The rest of us are apparently looking for a fight.

Maybe my post was not sensible enough to be understood

Couldn't agree more. They do like a self congratulatory echo chamber on here though.

I do wonder, did he get some nice backhanders on those sales... perhaps?

Other EU countries did not allow fishing quota to be sold abroad, but the UK representative on the EU Fishing Committee was a certain Nigel Farage.

Some fisherman sold their original rights decades ago to other countries for the ready cash. Those individuals are probably long gone, but the option of doing that wasn't a good investment for the future.

I know there are gullible Grans, but Parky must be joking!

mokryna, I did live through those times with a mortgage but it is because of those times, a lot of people lived and learned which is why fixed rates became more of a thing.
The problem is that, although it wasn’t carried through this time, it was said international agreements could be disregarded or torn up, where is the trust now?
I agree totally, I was horrified at that. Wanting Brexit didn't mean that I lost my morals even if others did!
As for the fishing rights, I think what the French want is unreasonable but do think there can be some reasonable movement on the British side. I get fish straight from the boat and there have been many times when the boats have been unable to fish because the quotas are so tight. However, other nations have still been out trawling. How can that be right? A bigger percentage would certainly help our fishermen and, in a time when meat eating is being decried, we should be encouraging more consumption of fish.

Summerlove

MawBe
(Which little jab was that? )

That only only the posts you agree with are sensible.
The rest of us are apparently looking for a fight.

Maybe my post was not sensible enough to be understood

I don’t know where you get that idea.
How do you assess which posts I have adjudged sensible or not?
I commented that tempers seemed to have eased, posts were more rational, less hysterical and yes, IMO I stand by the word sensible
I understood your post well enough but wonder why you find it necessary to try to fan any flames again. ??
As I said, fight in an empty room.

Mokryna

There are several good examples of rules that may change here are a couple
GM foods, at present we cannot grow them because of EU rules, if we did the EU would ban much of our produce
Hormone treated meat, if we imported US beef they would not want it sent to them
Safety at present the”CE” label is an EU standard if we decided to change, again that would be a problem

There are many many more ways we might change, that why they want the right to say no thanks.

Callistemon

I think there's a bit of confusion here (me)
Apologies.

Thank you

For the record, I’m not stock piling water.

pantglas I’m sorry I couldn’t find an article from 9 months ago.

Apparently lemongrove the season of goodwill only goes in one direction

MawBe
(Which little jab was that? )

That only only the posts you agree with are sensible.
The rest of us are apparently looking for a fight.

Maybe my post was not sensible enough to be understood

icanhandthemback
^ often than not have a fixed rate for a number of years^
You didn’t live through the years when I first bought a house
‘69 = 7% / ‘79 = 17% .

The problem is that, although it wasn’t carried through this time, it was said international agreements could be disregarded or torn up, where is the trust now? It’s a very sad situation which is not made better with statements such as, we will have fish for breakfast, lunch and dinner, meaning no agreement can be made, whereas earlier, the EU was saying agreements are on the way to being made. I do agree that the EU has more then its fair share of the fish market but I am sure if the will is there an agreement can be made, otherwise what will happen to the UK farmers when the cheap meat gets dumped in the UK and they cannot export easily to the EU.

lemongrove

Ah...the Season of goodwill! ??

I expect MawBe simply meant it was good that posters had calmed down their responses.I’ll drink to that.

Hear hear!

I think someone at our local pumping station has a heavy hand with the chlorine sometimes. It fair knocks you back when you turn on the tap.
Btw anyone seen Trump lately? He's keen on bleach.

mokryna, yes they do but do have the option of changing providers and, these days, more often than not have a fixed rate for a number of years. We could not just up and leave from an agreement negotiated with the EU and we can't have short enough agreements to make it worthwhile.
Trying to negotiate with 27 other countries who all have their own country's interests at the forefront of their agenda, is what made me vote leave. I think the last 4 years have just highlighted the problems with the a very cumbersome system.

icanhandthemback
With the level playing field, I don't understand how anyone would want to sign up to something which one side could change without a buy your leave
But people do when they sign an agreement for a house mortgage with the bank, the rates go up and down.
In sport eg Olympiques or UK football clubs obey FIFA, which enable them to play in international games.
Country’s laws change from time to time, which everyone has to obey.

Summerlove

MawBe

And breathe!
The thread seems to have cooled down, thank you for sensible posts.

Just because you don’t happen to agree with certain posts, doesn’t make them not sensible.

I’m so tired of this little jab.

Yawn - fight in an empty room?

What is the problem with expressing appreciation of sensible or rational posts?

(Which little jab was that? )

A filter jug is the best bet, but in extremis ?
the water that comes out of the tap is perfectly drinkable in the UK.

Ah...the Season of goodwill! ??

I expect MawBe simply meant it was good that posters had calmed down their responses.I’ll drink to that.

Summerlove

MawBe

And breathe!
The thread seems to have cooled down, thank you for sensible posts.

Just because you don’t happen to agree with certain posts, doesn’t make them not sensible.

I’m so tired of this little jab.

hear, hear- getting quite unpleasant. (how do you spell 'possy' ?)

I think there's a bit of confusion here (me)
Apologies.

Summerlove isn’t stockpiling water. I am.

Actually I added a 6 pack of still water & 4l of sparking to the order. So not exactly stockpiling. Just adding some from none.

Summerlove

GrannyGravy13

It was stockpiling at the beginning of the pandemic which caused a multitude of problems. In my opinion it is utterly selfish.

I can still see the image of the elderly lady distraught because the supermarket shelves were empty.

That was panic buying.

People who stock pile do it slowly over many month.

Regardless, advice at the beginning of the pandemic was to have two weeks worth of food in your house at all times. Not everybody has that because of the ease of buying daily. So of course people listen to the government and went out and bought what they needed for two weeks.

But it’s certainly much easier to blame it on individual people being stupid and selfish versus the government advice, isn’t it?

Oh, Summerlove, I thought it was you:
That was panic buying.

I haven’t mentioned panic buying. That was someone else.

People who stock pile do it slowly over many month.
Will add some bottled water to the shopping list.
But not too much, that would be panic buying, as you said earlier.

I would still recommend a filter jug. Sometimes our tap water smells like a swimming pool, so I get the filter jug out.
I know you can have proper systems installed but that is not so simple.

Summerlove

I can’t find it now, of course. But it was often recommended to have enough for two weeks in case you had to quarantine.

And you could’ve gone further but of course of not bothered....

MawBe

And breathe!
The thread seems to have cooled down, thank you for sensible posts.

Just because you don’t happen to agree with certain posts, doesn’t make them not sensible.

I’m so tired of this little jab.