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Parky Wed 09-Dec-20 08:12:14

Personally I would rather UK left EU without a deal than give up our freedom. We can avoid buying French food and wine, on the wholecwe drink new world wines anyway.
British cheeses are just as good.

As for travel, we all managed before freedom of movement and can easily go back.

The thought of caving into europe and their desire to annexe uk fills me with horror

mcem Wed 09-Dec-20 14:19:06

Many of us hope that in the near future RUK chugs along under its own steam while Scotland is an equal at the EU table.

twinnytwin Wed 09-Dec-20 13:59:32

I believe the EU are going to make it difficult as possible for the UK as if our economy thrives in the ongoing years, more countries are going to want to go their own way too. There'll be pain to start with of course, but I believe the UK will go strength to strength. The EU need our trade too. And yes, I voted to Remain but we have to deal with things in the real world.

MawBe Wed 09-Dec-20 13:52:28

lemongrove

Ellianne

It is a bizarre thread, but amusant because I have just spent all yesterday sourcing French foods for Noël as we can't go over to buy them this year. Having to pay a lot more than usual for French pastis, cidre, chocolate powder, salad dressings, etc. as British alternatives just don't cut the moutarde.

Then Noel will have to learn to do without them ( joke)??

tchgrintchgrin

Hyacinth lives to fight another day!

PS who buys their salad dressings - that’s cheating and comes under convenience food in my livre.

kittylester Wed 09-Dec-20 13:49:20

'It draws contributions from all sorts of folks' is the quote Ellianne. Not at all light hearted.

paddyanne Wed 09-Dec-20 13:49:08

I liked Gabriella too ,it was the food post that rung a bell .Shame I'd have liked to see her back

25Avalon Wed 09-Dec-20 13:46:43

You can double or treble check elsewhere.

Alegrias2 Wed 09-Dec-20 13:44:28

Unsafe link 25Avalon. Don't follow it people.

25Avalon Wed 09-Dec-20 13:40:24

Nannytopsy it’s on the www.govt.uk website. Lots of trade deals and MRAs with Australia and New Zealand.

25Avalon Wed 09-Dec-20 13:34:56

Alegrias2 the container problem is very serious. Apparently when trade started again round the world there were empty shipping containers in the wrong place so to speak. The cost of shipping a full container has increased dramatically so they all want to ship full containers but no one wants to take the empty ones back. Goods are waiting to be shipped from China but no containers. Companies in this country, particularly the building trade cannot get many supplies, and the increased costs where they can will be passed on to the consumer. Obviously this will resolve when there are only empty containers but could take several months.

Ellianne Wed 09-Dec-20 13:32:43

Ok let's rehash kittylester, "it draws all sorts of comments from folk" .... serious, lighthearted, funny, questioning, knowledgeable etc.
No one would expect to be jokey on a bereavement thread for example or unsympathetic on a health thread.

Nannytopsy Wed 09-Dec-20 13:07:42

Sorry Avalon not Alegrias!

Nannytopsy Wed 09-Dec-20 13:04:10

Alegrias2 could you tell us which countries we have these wonderful agreements agreed with? Certainly not the US.

kittylester Wed 09-Dec-20 13:00:31

I think that the poster did mean Hyacinth Bucket!!

And, there is absolutely no bar on where posters can start threads nor is there any bar on people posting on a thread be it under Politics, Chat or what ever. 'All sorts of people' can post on all sorts of threads. That was a very condescending comment.

Gabriella certainly brought some colour to the threads.

Lucretzia Wed 09-Dec-20 12:53:48

Marydoll

*Ellianne*, I really liked Gabriella, but she did upset some posters by her views.
She could be brutally honest, to say the least.

I loved her.

And yes, she was honest. But never cruel or rude.

Marydoll Wed 09-Dec-20 12:52:20

Ellianne, I really liked Gabriella, but she did upset some posters by her views.
She could be brutally honest, to say the least.

Ellianne Wed 09-Dec-20 12:42:46

Marydoll

*Ellianne*, I suspect Paddyanne is referring to a former poster, Gabriella, who was banned. I do miss her forthright, although sometime, unfortunately offensive posts
Bucket is indeed correct.

Not guilty. I rather like the sound of that Gabriella though, apart from the offensive bit.
Thank you Marydoll, I've spent the last half hour puzzling that! Hope I'm not heading the same way! I thought she meant Hyacinth.

Anyway, the OP put the bizarre opening comment under "Chat", not "Politics", so as has been pointed out before it draws contributions from all sorts of folk.

Marydoll Wed 09-Dec-20 12:33:19

Ellianne, I suspect Paddyanne is referring to a former poster, Gabriella, who was banned. I do miss her forthright, although sometime, unfortunately offensive posts
Bucket is indeed correct.

Alegrias2 Wed 09-Dec-20 12:26:10

OK, I'll just be quick then 25Avalon. Hungary and Poland are great examples of the Strong Man governments that I was talking about in my post, causing trouble for their own ends. We already have a trade deal that includes Scotch whisky, I'll not get into the details about the tariffs that already exist. I have no idea what relevance the container comment has.

Ellianne Wed 09-Dec-20 12:25:08

paddyanne

Is EllianeGabriella in disguise there a certain Mrs Bucket style about her posts?

You've lost me! Am I Lady Gabriella Windsor, Gabriella as in Little Mernaid, or Gabrielle (Coco) Chanel?
By the way, it's Mrs. Bouquet anyway.

25Avalon Wed 09-Dec-20 11:39:59

Alegrias2 I am a bit busy at the moment and don’t have time for protracted arguments that usually get nowhere. Take a look at Hungary and Poland for example both causing problems for the EU. Doing our own trade deals the Scotch Whisky Association happy if they get a deal with US etc. Time will tell. At the moment the most worrying concern with getting goods in is this shipping and container problem caused globally by the pandemic.

paddyanne Wed 09-Dec-20 11:15:20

Is EllianeGabriella in disguise there a certain Mrs Bucket style about her posts?

Alegrias2 Wed 09-Dec-20 11:15:17

25Avalon

Alegrias2 I don’t agree.

Any particular reason? Or just alternative facts?

M0nica Wed 09-Dec-20 11:14:52

Perhaps Parky is Dominic Cummings in disguise.

Lucca Wed 09-Dec-20 11:07:26

It all just seems a bit jingoistic and meaningless to me. Blue passports? Why ? Freedom? From what? Straight bananas? It’s just sound bites, but then Boris loves those. What is sovereignty in practical terms.

Blossoming Wed 09-Dec-20 10:33:34

What exactly is it that you are going to pay Parky? I don’t really understand your thread title.