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Parky Wed 09-Dec-20 08:12:14

Personally I would rather UK left EU without a deal than give up our freedom. We can avoid buying French food and wine, on the wholecwe drink new world wines anyway.
British cheeses are just as good.

As for travel, we all managed before freedom of movement and can easily go back.

The thought of caving into europe and their desire to annexe uk fills me with horror

GagaJo Tue 15-Dec-20 15:16:45

Sorry Vegan wrong person! My comment was for Jane10s offensive remark.

GagaJo Tue 15-Dec-20 15:15:39

vegansrock

No one is happy - are Brexit supporters?

What an inane comment. NO ONE likes this situation.

25Avalon Tue 15-Dec-20 14:12:33

Don’t forget some of this is to do with the container problem as part of the global pandemic so some goods won’t be here for 2-3 months Brexit or no Brexit. Regarding Brexit I just wish they would finalise it even if it’s no deal so everyone knows where they stand. This should have been concluded months ago.

lemongrove Tue 15-Dec-20 13:56:17

Yes thanks vegan?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 15-Dec-20 13:39:56

Busiest weekend of the year would have expected to see queues, which is why we always booked Flexi-plus on the Eurostar to avoid them.

vegansrock Tue 15-Dec-20 13:36:14

No one is happy - are Brexit supporters?

Jane10 Tue 15-Dec-20 13:19:05

Oh well thanks for that GagaJo. How happy you must have felt seeing that photo. ?

GagaJo Tue 15-Dec-20 12:25:54

Dover on Friday. Imagine all the imported food etc in that crush.

Online orders for non food items made now may not arrive till March.

So, yes. Looking great. All the worries are just project fear.

Jane10 Mon 14-Dec-20 20:13:56

I don't remember bring told to stockpile but, at the beginning of it all, nobody knew if they'd suddenly be stricken and have to quarantine for 2 weeks. If it had happened to us I suppose our DD would have got our shopping but others might not have had anyone to shop for them in emergency or have the wherewithal to set up online shopping. So it's understandable that some people did a big shop. Luckily it was soon obviously OK or we just got used to it.
On my part I began to only shop once a week instead twice or three times so it looked like I was buying a large amount.

Summerlove Mon 14-Dec-20 19:33:15

I can’t find it now, of course. But it was often recommended to have enough for two weeks in case you had to quarantine.

lemongrove Mon 14-Dec-20 17:00:48

I like most wines, but the ones from OZ and NZ are really excellent, also from Chile.wine
I can’t understand all the panic buying/stockpiling mentality.

25Avalon Mon 14-Dec-20 16:53:21

Petra once we are out of the EU Australian wine will be cheaper as it has tariffs imposed at the moment. We love NZ wine and that should go down in price too.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 14-Dec-20 13:16:32

Where did it say about two weeks of food Summerlove? The advice was going out for essentials.

I remember the advice to shop on your own where possible, nobody needed the amount of pasta, toilet rolls and tinned tomatoes which were regularly seen in trollies piled ridiculously high throughout March and April.

Summerlove Mon 14-Dec-20 13:09:26

GrannyGravy13

It was stockpiling at the beginning of the pandemic which caused a multitude of problems. In my opinion it is utterly selfish.

I can still see the image of the elderly lady distraught because the supermarket shelves were empty.

That was panic buying.

People who stock pile do it slowly over many month.

Regardless, advice at the beginning of the pandemic was to have two weeks worth of food in your house at all times. Not everybody has that because of the ease of buying daily. So of course people listen to the government and went out and bought what they needed for two weeks.

But it’s certainly much easier to blame it on individual people being stupid and selfish versus the government advice, isn’t it?

Lucca Mon 14-Dec-20 13:04:41

I was just talking to a friend about this and that, Brexit came up, not sure how or why, and she said she had voted Leave but was now convinced she made a mistake. Interesting.

David0205 Mon 14-Dec-20 13:04:28

petra

^maybe do a wine buy today^
Thank goodness there are no tariffs on Australian wine.
Amazing isn't it that they produce a beautiful bottle of wine, export half way round the world where it sells for £5 a bottle. ?

I’m buying Australian this afternoon just checked tax etc

20% VAT + 32p per litre
That’s just under £4 per bottle less supermarket markup - 25%?shipping etc etc. Producer likely gets £3.00.

vegansrock Mon 14-Dec-20 12:43:25

petra The EU have a wine quota with Australia. We’d have to negotiate another one.
The government have advised supermarkets to stockpile, so it makes sense for consumers to do the same, especially if prices will rise. I don’t think keeping a stock of wine in order to hedge ones bets against future price increases will leave anyone distraught. It’s what Brexits all about isn’t it? I invested in a few Euros as well a while back just like many leaders of the leave campaign . I suspect many of them have a decent wine cellar as well. Anyway, Brexit supporters will be happy with shortages and price rises because they knew all along this would happen didnt they?

Lucretzia Mon 14-Dec-20 12:34:09

Good news GrannyGravy!

And well done to the people of S. E. Essex

GrannyGravy13 Mon 14-Dec-20 12:29:03

Just come back from local Aldi, shelves were piled high with everything, no panic buying in this part of S E Essex. I guess the locals have more sense?

petra I do like an Australian or South American wine along with a very nice Turkish white we have discovered all delivered to the door - cheers ?

Blossoming Mon 14-Dec-20 11:53:15

lemongrove

Haha, then let them eat cake!

With fish fingers? ?

We saw the Icelandic gunboat ‘Thor’ , veteran of the cod war, on a visit to Iceland some years ago, It was disappointingly tiny and not bristling with guns!

Lucretzia Mon 14-Dec-20 11:44:38

People shouldn't be allowed to stockpile.

The supermarkets will have to start limiting

It's the height of selfishness

petra Mon 14-Dec-20 11:42:03

maybe do a wine buy today
Thank goodness there are no tariffs on Australian wine.
Amazing isn't it that they produce a beautiful bottle of wine, export half way round the world where it sells for £5 a bottle. ?

Callistemon Mon 14-Dec-20 11:01:26

GagaJo

Supermarkets already showing shortages despite trying to stockpile upon the advice of BJ. But don't let that get in the way of project fear gaslighting.

As long as the usual ostrich subjects don't start bleating about hardships later.

Catch 22

Or chicken and egg situation although there has, for some reason, been a shortage of free range eggs since lockdown.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 14-Dec-20 10:29:33

The point is that it shouldn’t be necessary.

Insanity

GrannyGravy13 Mon 14-Dec-20 10:23:55

Yes Callistemon , they really made me upset as my friend of 41 years was working on the palliative Covid ward at the time, she was permanently exhausted.