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Parky Wed 09-Dec-20 08:12:14

Personally I would rather UK left EU without a deal than give up our freedom. We can avoid buying French food and wine, on the wholecwe drink new world wines anyway.
British cheeses are just as good.

As for travel, we all managed before freedom of movement and can easily go back.

The thought of caving into europe and their desire to annexe uk fills me with horror

petra Wed 09-Dec-20 23:04:36

The managing of Pasta Foods ( based in Norwich) has said:
Brexit has been a great opportunity for the company
And yes, support our farmers.

vegansrock Thu 10-Dec-20 07:16:57

I’m sure Norfolk pasta will replace all the Italian in no time. Meanwhile , we are stocking up with the real deal.

vegansrock Thu 10-Dec-20 07:19:05

Meanwhile businesses are told to check the new arrangements in expensive ads funded by the taxpayer - pity the government have no idea of the new arrangements.

Nannytopsy Thu 10-Dec-20 07:25:56

What I mean is that deals with Australia and New Zealand will not involve sufficient trade to replace the loss of trade in Europe and the trade we have with the rest of the world through European agreements.
There is blinkered thinking throughout the country.

25Avalon Thu 10-Dec-20 08:05:51

We have just signed a deal with Singapore and have already signed one with Japan. We have secured 26 trade agreements with 55 countries. I don’t have blinkered thinking at all thank you.

Nana3 Thu 10-Dec-20 08:31:48

petra

The managing of Pasta Foods ( based in Norwich) has said:
Brexit has been a great opportunity for the company
And yes, support our farmers.

Decided to look up Pasta Foods as our business imports goods from Italy and sells pasta to the hospitality industry in England. It is a sandwich and snack food industry provider !! It doesn't put dried pasta on supermarket shelves or into restaurants.

Parky Thu 10-Dec-20 08:37:21

Sorry I haven't been back. Out all day yesterday.

First of all brexit is a done deal and it's is vital that we get the best possible terms. This does not mean giving in on fishing quotas, protects us from control by european courts, keeps our finance industry secure etc.

UK food standards are higher than Europe's and have been for years. Animal welfare us higher in UK.

All I am saying is better to have a rough few months with a no deal than give up on our basic requirements. Hopefully today will show some movement on EU's stance

Lancslass1 Thu 10-Dec-20 08:48:36

I am with you Parky.
We voted to leave with or without a deal and that is what we will do.

When I voted to leave the EU one of my thoughts was what would the EU become if France and Germany also decided to leave ?

JenniferEccles Thu 10-Dec-20 11:40:11

I think it’s time to walk away.

The EU are not going to budge, and the PM said the deal on offer was one no Prime Minister would accept.

It has always been the case that they would give us a hard time, both to punish us for having the temerity to vote to leave, as well as to try to deter other countries from doing the same.

I am so pleased Boris appears to be standing firm.

We now have to hope he holds his ground.

Espana Thu 10-Dec-20 11:59:36

What does OP mean?

Marydoll Thu 10-Dec-20 12:17:26

Espana

What does OP mean?

OP= Original post/er

Daisend1 Thu 10-Dec-20 12:29:48

There is 'nowt'( a word I latched onto from my Yorkshire inlaws) I will miss once out of the EU.It never stopped me travelling Europe before we became part of it and won't again non Eu.. There are others wines and food non EU that will still be available and that I enjoy so no great loss should we have to pay more for Eu items.

Daisend1 Thu 10-Dec-20 12:34:53

Pay more for EU tipple? NO WAY

Alegrias2 Thu 10-Dec-20 12:37:01

Daisend1, you have no idea what being a member of the EU means. We talked about this at the start of the thread, cheese and wine parties aren't the problem here.

I went to get my Warfarin this morning. Made in The Netherlands. Did you hear the businessman on Radio 2 this lunchtime saying that his paving slabs from India were held up because we don't know what the customs requirements will be in 3 weeks time? And he doesn't know what the effect on his business will be?

He was really surprised. Wonder if he voted brexit?

Luckygirl Thu 10-Dec-20 12:53:17

However people voted in the referendum we are now where we are, and it is important that a good deal is secured.

I am sure that some things will improve when we leave, and some will deteriorate or problems will arise. But this is where we are and we must make the best of it. What else can we do? It is not going to change now.

The EU are keen to maintain those things that are advantageous for them in having the UK a member; just as we are wanting to retain those things that are advantageous for us. Hopefully there will be sufficient overlapping ground for these two aspects that a deal can be struck.

I also think that the EU are keen that we should not have too good a deal as other member states might start wanting to leave too with a similar good deal, but less outlay.

quizqueen Thu 10-Dec-20 13:04:34

No one 'needs' to buy foreign produced foodstuffs. Support your own country by buying British otherwise we'll lose more than Debenhams etc.

The UK has already signed several Free Trade Agreements with other countries; Singapore being the most recent. Funnily enough, they didn't want to control our borders, waters and laws as part of signing it. They just wanted to be a sensible country and offer 2 way trade, not an organisation scared stiff of losing control in case others were encouraged to break ranks.

Daisend1 Thu 10-Dec-20 13:09:21

Alegrias2
Paving slabs ARE also made in the UK and my own recently laid path were with slabs that showed Manufactured in the UK. Shop around .UK manufactures are still here and always will be For those who remember the effects of WW11 and the hard times that were to follow leaving the EU will be a piece of cake in comparison.

Daisend1 Thu 10-Dec-20 13:30:24

Quizqueen
You are right and haven't we had enough of Europe and what we can and what we can't for far too long ?

Shinamae Thu 10-Dec-20 13:30:31

I agree, Boris has to stand his ground…

biba70 Thu 10-Dec-20 13:33:02

fb.watch/2hST9mGymG/

to be sovereign and buy British- I think it would be good to not destroy our agriculture and family farms, no?

25Avalon Thu 10-Dec-20 14:06:48

The hold up with paving slabs from India realest to the container problem which ALL countries are experiencing including the US.

25Avalon Thu 10-Dec-20 14:07:01

Relates

Kalu Thu 10-Dec-20 14:13:35

I fail to understand why a Swiss National, who lives in Switzerland, doesn’t have enough to concern herself with, her own countries politics!

GrannyGravy13 Thu 10-Dec-20 14:48:14

The backlog at Folkestone was initially caused by a computer system failure.

We have a friend who is one of the managers at The London Gateway port, it is a worldwide problem with containers being in the wrong place due to the worldwide pandemic.

biba70 Thu 10-Dec-20 15:19:16

Kalu

I fail to understand why a Swiss National, who lives in Switzerland, doesn’t have enough to concern herself with, her own countries politics!

Here we go again. You mean a British national, married to another British national, with British children, grandchildren and family - paid in tanking Sterling after working all their life in the UK in public services, eg the NHS and State Edu.