No one obeyed the rules!

JenniferEccles

How many threads like this have there been over the past year with posters coming on here complaining bitterly about neighbours comings and goings without being completely aware of individual circumstances?

We have all made different plans for this Christmas.

Some people have decided to continue to isolate themselves, whilst others, like us, maybe for a variety of reasons and family circumstances, planned to spend at least part of the holiday with their loved ones.

Both decisions should be respected.

Whist I do respect everyone's right to be able to make such a decision, it does not mean I agree with them.

We were asked not to stay overnight but as has been all year, some think they can be the exception.

I really can't see how there can be any reason for flouting the rule of 'no overnight stay' except for the one instance I heard about on the radio last week. A daughter, whose mother was terminally ill (perhaps a few weeks) wanted to visit and needed to stay the night because of the travelling distance. She wasn't the carer but the advice given was to visit.

Oh! It may cause some concern doing this, but watching from the window is life line for some living by themselves and should not be criticised for doing so.

I fear we may be looking at a huge increase in cases in a week/10 days time.

For every single person that did not follow the rules- those of us who did will pay the price with them.

Even our grandchildren, 14 and 12- are sick to the back teeth with it- hearing their friends and families all breaking the rules and being all over the place- whilst their parents and grand-parents follow the rules to protect everyone. Little one cried about it on Zoom- saying she is worried they won't be able to see us again for a long time- because of all those dreadful, selfish, nasty people who just could not just say NO and stay put this time.

I wonder how many of the younger generation actually listen to The News, as most of us oldies do - are they aware each time the rules change?

What about the people who had maybe self isolated from 10th December, "sacrificed their freedom", had their bags packed ready to go away from 23rd - 27thDecember in their own car, no risk to anyone. I also might well have felt cheated not to have at least visited my folks on Christmas Day/Boxing Day, assuming those folks hadn't been mixing too.

Shazmo stay one night, you can pick up COVID, after that what does it matter how long they stay?

DD, my bubble is here for a fortnight, all strictly legal and within the rules.

We’re a bit like this since lockdown started.

youy lucky we in tier 4 me /myself and i .boring /boring/ boring .

My next door neighbour has had het son & partner staying since Christmas Day. We are in Tier 3 and her son from Wales....wasn't bothered for one night but 2????

I certainly obeyed the rules, but wasn't happy at all .

I live in a culdesac 15 homes approx and I wouldn’t have a clue what anyone is doing outside, but I know for a fact all my family are abiding by the rules to keep safe,I presume the neighbours are doing their bit too, seen very few dog walkers go by either, it’s so quiet here

A survey said 85% obeyed the rules at Xmas. Could be rubbish of course! I think we should look after ourselves to keep ourselves safe. So Christmas rules and tier 4 were a relief to me because I can follow the rules. The next thing we need to do is get the vaccine ASAP. Then when idiots around us are idiots, we will survive.

*Maggiemaybe

Maggiemaybe
I don’t know where you read that but Boris definitely said no overnight stays when he retracted the 5 day Christmas bubble.

My Mum used to say 'only perfect people may judge others'. I've a long way to go if that's the case,

I've been out and about this morning and the traffic is definitely heavy. I'm guessing a lot of people are heading home today. It is after all 27th and in many people's minds this was the initial date given for Christmas festivities to end. So yes, realistically I think a bit of rule flouting probably happened, along with genuine reasons too.

I don’t object to people watching I object to people bashing that’s all

anniebach what an assumption I do live completely alone thanks for telling me how I live
I absolutely think it’s great to look out of your window as much as people want that’s not what I inferred but no one can assume they know who every visitor is or why there are there or see more than a few houses whilst sitting watching the world go by
If I sit at my window I can see at least four houses opposite I can’t see next door or others on my side so to know how the whole of the cul de sac which 4xGranny said is acting calls for more than sitting watching the world go by

Young couples and old lady could possibly be in a bubble so legal? But who knows!

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I do wonder what use Tier 3 is in the light of people mixing outside the home, crowds of shoppers “hitting the sales” etc.
I was interested by the Boxing Day pics from Newcastle and Birmingham (Tier 3) and one of Oxford St (Tier 4 where all non- essential shops remained shut )
Not hard to spot the difference.

My mum used to say "never you mind what others are doing it's none of your beeswax, you do whats right for you"

No, the rules didn’t say no overnight stays for tier 3, 4xGranny.

Between 24 and 26 December you can stay in private rented accommodation, a hotel, hostel or B&B in England over Christmas, in line with the social gathering and travel rules in your tier, as long as you are staying by yourself, or with other members of your household and support bubble, and it is necessary for seeing your Christmas bubble on Christmas Day. This includes in a Tier 3: Very High alert area.

Some might not have approved, but it was allowed.

We notice people passing by the end of the garden-we’d have to keep the curtains shut to avoid it. Neighbours glance over and wave, some folk point at our garden and wave if they see us.
We live at the top of a steep hill, so a lot of people pause when they get to our house just to catch their breath. A lot more people have walked past since lockdown started and some of them have become friends via distanced conversations.

Witzend I do not peer at my neighbours but when going for a walk I can see if houses are in darkness with no cars on the drives.
The rules said no overnight stays and only mixing for Christmas Day.
My point was that extra mixing increases the risk of contracting the virus which may mean we remain in Tier 3 for longer. Therefore I am still penalised even though I’ve mixed with nobody!

Sparklefizz I really feel for your daughter. Teachers are in a terrible situation.

Can someone please explain the Dr Seuss reference? Thank you.

Our house overlooks the main footpath in the village, we love watching everyone walking up and down with children dogs etc etc. I have just turned my head to look and a runner and dog have just gone past.

I cannot really see my neighbours, but I am sure I would watch them too if I could see them.

I have DD staying, she is in our bubble. She is staying a fornight.