who should run the vaccination service

Oh, it worked!

That’s not good at all SueDonim, my daughter has two close friends who are doctors on the front line, and both of them had the Pfizer vaccine before Christmas. I hope your daughter gets hers done very soon indeed. In Wales they did prioritise front line staff in health and care, but from what I’ve understood that wasn’t done all over the UK, which seems so wrong as apart from the obvious risks to their own health we need them all to be in work at the moment.

Oopsadaisysyl I love it!

MissAdventure thank you, so unlucky, just on the two weeks.

Vaccine minister in bbc2 now

I know.
They must be devastated.

I'm not keen on the vaccine minister.
Still, he is very emphatic that all is on target.

If you listen carefully to Nadhim Zaharia you’ll notice that he says that by mid February 13.9m people will have been OFFERED the vaccine, not vaccinated. He knows as well as us that it won’t happen. Do any of the cabinet understand basic maths?

The sage man is very forthright. I like him.

I’m beginning to wonder if the vials of vaccine aren’t coming through fast enough & so PHE are stalling to lower expectations?

My 88y old stepfather has heard nothing yet in our area.

I've thought that all along, but they're going to release daily figures showing vaccination rates.

So they say.

That’s definitely the case in Wales Urmstongran, the NHS Chief Executive said it in his televised briefing today, that the only potential bar to delivery of the numbers required will be if there is insufficient vaccine supply. The vaccine is being distributed U.K. wide based on population, so this would presumably apply for the whole U.K., although it sounds like not all areas are as geared up as they could be to deliver.

To diversify slightly, do be careful if you get a text message (or maybe an email?) offering you the vaccine as some of these are scams. If you are asked to provide your credit/debit cards details, these are a scam, as the COVID vaccine is free of charge. As many of us are, we’re very keen to get vaccinated, but do watch out for this.

Charleygirl5

In my area, the pay for a vaccinator is £25 an hour. I did not even want payment- this is a pandemic for God's sake. The 21 pages of garbage to be filled n has been reduced to 4 but as far as I am concerned they can stuff it. I was not in a lifting and handling role so it would be 30 years + since and amazingly I got rid of everything to do with my profession.

Are vaccinators really needed? That's what's puzzling me. As I've outlined above, there are certainly enough for the patients in my area and other areas will have a similar proportion.

Some venues have been rejected because they're not big enough and don't have the facilities for storage, social distancing or a recovery area.

The big centres are going to be working alongside GP hubs, so there will be opportunities for those who can't travel to one of the big centres.

I think Labour is right. Clarity is needed.

Urmstongran

I’m beginning to wonder if the vials of vaccine aren’t coming through fast enough & so PHE are stalling to lower expectations?

My 88y old stepfather has heard nothing yet in our area.

That went through my mind too.

NHS. It's a massive undertaking and all the armchair critics saying they could do better is ridiculous. Thank goodness for our NHS

www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/wp-content/uploads/sites/52/2020/12/C0923-legal-mechanisms-for-adminstration-of-the-covid-19-vaccines-v2-10-december-2020.pdf

The global shortage of glass vials and lengthy laboratory testing procedures are slowing things down. As yet, we don't have further capacity or resources to speed things up.

I should have added to my own post about being asked for credit/debit card details and scams, that this refers to the UK and the fact that the NHS don’t charge for vaccines. I don’t know what happens in other countries! Sorry about that omission.

Thank you for that link Genty. It was an interesting read.

IMO there is no way that anybody other than the NHS should be responsible for the vaccination programme.

One reason is that there is a massive amount of secure data involved, which is currently held securely on NHS databases. The reason the NHS is able to contact people is because it has details of patients' age, medical history etc and, hopefully, has up-to-date contact details. I would not want that information to be passed on to a third party.

Another reason is that the NHS does have experience of administering vaccines on a national scale. Any third party brought in at this stage would have to set up its own systems and co-ordinate with the NHS anyway. The less need for meetings between stakeholders, the better. Just let the NHS get on with the job.

PS. If somebody has seen a GP recently, details should be correct, but if you're in a priority group and haven't been in contact recently, it might be worthwhile making sure details are correct, so you can be contacted by text or phone.

My surgery doesn't have the space needed to be able to give the vaccine in it as it's 2 terraced houses joined together and as, apparently, after you have the injection you have to wait 20 minutes there wouldn't be enough room to sit the patients who are waiting for the injection, had the injection and waiting for the 20 minutes and any patients who have come for appointments.

I had a text message from my surgery a few weeks ago saying they are trying to organise a suitable facility for the vaccinations and we will hear in due course. We were also told not to contact the surgery re covid vaccination, to wait until we hear from the surgery. They will contact us.

The only suitable place locally is the leisure centre if they are going to do mass vaccinations.

Petunia. I have pm’d you.

Yes, Genty and Froglady. There was a poster on GN a couple of months ago who explained all about the 15 minutes wait after vaccinating, the lack of facilities in gp surgeries, the logistical problems etc. It was all true information but she was ridiculed, called all sorts, and subsequently driven off GN by two horrible posters, fortunately no longer posting.
Since their departure, discussions are far more meaningful and civil and it is a shame the informative poster left.
I just want to take the opportunity to stand up for her and others who post their knowledge, others who research, and others who express their opinions. These can all often turn out to be vindicated at a later date.

In our area a huge stadium will be used for the vaccinations. We will be contacted as and when.

Our surgery ‘hub’ is now doing the second Pfizer jabs for those done 3 weeks ago, they’ve also sent txt for those in caring jobs to contact them