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Newatthis Sun 21-Feb-21 12:15:54

Can someone please enlighten me in letting me know what was wrong in Harry and meghan saying "service is universal"? Surely it is. We also like to help each other and provide a service to each other when we can, that's what I'd like to believe anyway. Isn't this what they meant? There's seems to be a lot of H & M bashing again over this, however, it's all gone quiet over Prince Andrew's alleged sexual relationship with an underage girl. Am I missing something?

Lucca Fri 26-Feb-21 20:16:28

Anniebach

Lucca if they put on an act when the crowds cheered them they should be nominated for an Oscar

They did exactly what every other royal bride and groom do.
They didn’t necessarily”lap up” the cheers, they were newly married and happy. Do you not sometimes, just sometimes, think you overdo the criticism ?

NellG Fri 26-Feb-21 19:53:44

Anniebach

What harm or distress would have been caused if they had done what is simply a custom, they make appearances the public turn out to cheer them, they didn’t get married in secret , they lapped up the cheers on their wedding day .

Having seen various bits of the Harry interview today, he pretty much said that they wanted some control over which parts of their life were for the public - so I think they felt that they should have control over when people saw the baby and that following the protocol wasn't what they wanted to do. I think they'd have been left alone more if they had followed it myself.

Anniebach Fri 26-Feb-21 19:51:29

Lucca if they put on an act when the crowds cheered them they should be nominated for an Oscar

Oopsadaisy1 Fri 26-Feb-21 19:44:35

Summerlove

Oopsadaisy1

I also think that when they had their child the secrecy didn’t do them any favours and the Press stirred up the ‘rage of the British people’ when no baby photos were forthcoming, no one knew when or where she had had the baby, lists of Godparents were and still are a secret and when we did see the child it was on an overseas trip.
They really didn’t help themselves, but I wasn’t outraged and I’m sure most of us didn’t really care one way or the other. The Press had a field day though.

I Ie never understood the anger over this

We were not owed any of that information.

I think it was because at that time we (the taxpayer) were still funding them, all be it via the Queen et al.
Plus of course they went against convention.

Lucca Fri 26-Feb-21 19:16:26

Anniebach

What harm or distress would have been caused if they had done what is simply a custom, they make appearances the public turn out to cheer them, they didn’t get married in secret , they lapped up the cheers on their wedding day .

Yet again claiming to know their thoughts, what tells you they “lapped up” the cheers ?????

Lucca Fri 26-Feb-21 19:14:35

I know I’m in a minority but I don’t understand why we need (or are desperate ) to see the baby belonging to people we’ve never met.

Anniebach Fri 26-Feb-21 19:14:29

What harm or distress would have been caused if they had done what is simply a custom, they make appearances the public turn out to cheer them, they didn’t get married in secret , they lapped up the cheers on their wedding day .

eazybee Fri 26-Feb-21 19:01:01

The press didn't stir up rage. I remember being surprised and mildly disappointed.
Eugenie and Jack got it just right: beaming with pride and shell-shocked at the same time, and just enough glimpse of the baby.

Lisagran Fri 26-Feb-21 18:57:15

NellG

Lisagran Fairly new, but in a weird situation whereby I have far too much time to kill by posting prolifically on here.

Well, good to have you here!

Iam64 Fri 26-Feb-21 18:47:24

Summerlove

Oopsadaisy1

I also think that when they had their child the secrecy didn’t do them any favours and the Press stirred up the ‘rage of the British people’ when no baby photos were forthcoming, no one knew when or where she had had the baby, lists of Godparents were and still are a secret and when we did see the child it was on an overseas trip.
They really didn’t help themselves, but I wasn’t outraged and I’m sure most of us didn’t really care one way or the other. The Press had a field day though.

I Ie never understood the anger over this

We were not owed any of that information.

Indeed Summerlove

NellG Fri 26-Feb-21 18:44:26

Summerlove No we're not owed that information as such, but there's been such a long established protocol about royal babies that when it wan't followed with Archie, it raised questions, interest and speculation. It's pretty natural that people would show an interest I think, and many are very invested in the RF so do get affected by the changes. Whether they should or not is a different matter.

Smileless2012 Fri 26-Feb-21 18:34:24

I agree that "we are not owed any of that information" Summerlove but it's expected by some. I'm not saying it should be but H would have been aware of that expectation and no doubt M would have been too before she married into the RF.

Summerlove Fri 26-Feb-21 18:31:31

25Avalon

It’s alligators in the US

Alligators and crocodiles are different animals.

America has both

Summerlove Fri 26-Feb-21 18:25:52

Oopsadaisy1

I also think that when they had their child the secrecy didn’t do them any favours and the Press stirred up the ‘rage of the British people’ when no baby photos were forthcoming, no one knew when or where she had had the baby, lists of Godparents were and still are a secret and when we did see the child it was on an overseas trip.
They really didn’t help themselves, but I wasn’t outraged and I’m sure most of us didn’t really care one way or the other. The Press had a field day though.

I Ie never understood the anger over this

We were not owed any of that information.

NellG Fri 26-Feb-21 18:10:09

If I post what I think Archie might have actually said I suspect I will cause a pile on of epic proportions and get a ban! It's one less syllable though... ?

Ellianne Fri 26-Feb-21 18:06:39

And that is 4 syllables, so a bit too advanced!

Ellianne Fri 26-Feb-21 18:06:01

25Avalon

It’s alligators in the US

grin

NellG Fri 26-Feb-21 18:05:29

Lisagran Fairly new, but in a weird situation whereby I have far too much time to kill by posting prolifically on here.

Ellianne Fri 26-Feb-21 18:03:27

My grandson's first word was "cake" or something sounding pretty similar. That's the trouble with boys, it's all about food or drink!

Outraged, not.

25Avalon Fri 26-Feb-21 18:01:09

It’s alligators in the US

MissAdventure Fri 26-Feb-21 17:55:51

It just came across that you were outraged.

On that note, my grandson's first word was jam. smile

Ellianne Fri 26-Feb-21 17:52:06

Not at all MissAdventure. But you were the one asking for an explanation of the word "crocodile" and my post was a follow on from another poster's.

MissAdventure Fri 26-Feb-21 17:48:27

Does it matter?
It's much the same as these children I read about who spend their time quietly doing arts and crafts until they're 27.

Ellianne Fri 26-Feb-21 17:35:03

Excuse me! I was a primary school Head with an interest in linguistics and speech development. I don't have all the papers to hand, but basically by the age of two a child will make one or two syllable sounds that stand for items they want, such as “bah bah” for bottle, or “da da” for dad.
It isn't usually until the age of 4 years that they use 3 syllables to form words.
Now I'm sure Harry is a very proud dad and that is commendable. But crocodile as Archie's first word? Someone is having a laugh!

Lucca Fri 26-Feb-21 17:31:33

GrannyGravy13

I have watched all the clips of him with James Corden on The Late Late Show, he looked relaxed and happy.

He is in Santa Barbara now, leading his own life on his terms. It must have been hard for a grown man to have to defer to his Grandparents all the while knowing he was only ever the spare I wish them both a long and happy life together.

That’s a nice post GG13

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