Megan and Harry again!

In reply to the OP, Andrew is already knocked down , & will have to stay down. ( Brought on himself by his own behaviour)
For some reason Meghan & Harry bring out the worst form of
spite & jealousy in folks, made worse by the press & let’s not forget Piers Morgan adding his penny's worth of sour grapes to stir up the pot.

If they want to make money, and they do, they have to keep a high public profile. It all seems so second rate to me when you compare it to the work they could have been doing here.

I wonder if that is the crux of the matter.
People feel that they have rejected "us".
(As if there has ever been an "us")

I think the idea that the UK is of primary importance loses sight of the fact that the US is a much bigger market and perhaps that is where their interests now lie. Because we get all the US media output their stuff will show here but it could be a mistake to think that this is their real target.

Alegrias1 I agree, Harry has walked away from The Firm not the family. They should be free to support (serve) whatever charities/organisations they want.

(Both Sentabale and Invictus Games have confirmed Harry us still very much involved)

Where I see it all going wrong was the Christmas before they were married.

Short while later Harry was on a radio show and was asked if Meghan had enjoyed herself.

He affirmed and then said She’s getting in there and it’s the family I suppose that she’s never had.”

Which then started her family getting in on the act and for me, that was when everything started to go wrong.

A simple comment, said without much thought, but the media certainly went to town with it. And they were interviewing her family and so it started and people began to turn

Great shame. The whole business. But I'm sure he's happy now with his wife and little boy. He still has a loving family. It will all work out OK

I was half way though and answer in support of MissA's question so I'll change it a bit now Lillie has replied.

Lillie's point is the crux of the whole discussion, as far as I can see. They can "serve" just as well in many ways, being on-call as "working Royals" isn't the only way. They don't actually have to "serve" you and me or the UK at all. If they want to go off and do things their own way, we don't actually have any say at all.

If their decisions and life choices have led them to deciding that they don't want the Royal way of life, who are we to tell them otherwise? Who are we to say that they should stay in a "job" which impacts so much on their family life?

If we are offended by what we see as cashing in on their history, well we just need to get over ourselves. I expect the Queen is managing to live with it.

I was sad to see Harry go to America but not surprised. I wish them well and hope that it comes up to their expectations. Harry said the media were bad here and they are, and he said he had to get away from it, but they have media in America too and the couple are not shying away from the limelight there aka Ophrah Winfrey etc. As I said I wish them well but I don't want to read or hear about their every move. If they have gone, exit, departed, then fair enough leave them alone and don't publish articles about them in our press or on tv every 5 minutes.

Calendargirl

I still haven’t worked out when it all went wrong, and H&M started to feel the traditional Royal life wasn’t for them.

Not at their engagement interview, when Meghan wanted to ‘hit the ground running’. Not on their early pre-marriage engagements in Wales and other places, when huge crowds gathered to wish them well. Not on that memorable wedding day, when the sun shone on what appeared to be the beginning of a life they both were keen to embrace and succeed at.

She wasn’t a gullible teenager, neither was he. They were mature adults, and surely their future lifestyle would have been discussed at great length between themselves, and thought about in huge detail, alongside advice and counsel from other family members and courtiers.

If it’s ‘The Press’ that is at the root of all this, then they should be like other family members and ride it out, as others have done before.

Perhaps it was when Harry was sent off on royal duties when M was expecting Archie (Will never did any when Kate was expecting) and then when they accepted and made a valiant attempt to do an African tour with said baby (Kate never did any for a year). It was perhaps at this point that they realised not only were they the targetof the gutter press but also the RF mule who would be expected to shoulder more than the other 2. Both them and their child being, of course, of less importance to the succession.

MissAdventure

Why should they?
Who says so?

Because their statement was they want to "serve."
And that is the discussion the OP put forward.

NellG- nailed it. (As the young people say)

Why should they?
Who says so?

MissAdventure

Lots of people make a living out of doing just that though, nowadays. (Sad as that is)

Yes, so exactly that relegates them to the ranks of B list celebritites and bang goes any attachment to their royal status. What did they expect?
By "doing" I meant in a practical way.

I still haven’t worked out when it all went wrong, and H&M started to feel the traditional Royal life wasn’t for them.

Not at their engagement interview, when Meghan wanted to ‘hit the ground running’. Not on their early pre-marriage engagements in Wales and other places, when huge crowds gathered to wish them well. Not on that memorable wedding day, when the sun shone on what appeared to be the beginning of a life they both were keen to embrace and succeed at.

She wasn’t a gullible teenager, neither was he. They were mature adults, and surely their future lifestyle would have been discussed at great length between themselves, and thought about in huge detail, alongside advice and counsel from other family members and courtiers.

If it’s ‘The Press’ that is at the root of all this, then they should be like other family members and ride it out, as others have done before.

It is not my business, I wish them a long happy and healthy life as a family.

Lots of people make a living out of doing just that though, nowadays. (Sad as that is)

trisher but what are they actually "doing" in all these podcasts, videos and photos of which there are many in February alone?
Not visiting hospitals, vaccination centres, homeless people. They are just talking about themselves.

Hang on, am I being frowned on here for actually giving a damn about his mental health? You know, the health he talks about and uses as a catalyst for this huge change.

trisher I disagree, I think they are 100% responsible for the amount of exposure they're getting. What they can't control is public reaction and press response - therein lies the concern. This is a runaway train that they currently think they're driving.

They have still a number of charitable interests and will still be raising money for them and keeping a public image is necessary for that.

trisher

Perhaps because the press stopped being sympathetic mokryna you don't go for a drink with someone who has just called your future wife "straight outta Compton"

His motive is fine and unquestionable, and the press are/were vile. Look what they did to Caroline Flack.

It's that his behaviour, and constant justifying of it that's incongruous. it's so vastly different to how his birth family would deal with it that it begs the question of what he wants to achieve. It's not privacy and parading his vulnerability and mental health on TV is sticking his head above a very unwieldy parapet. So what is he up to? Because none of it is adding up and I don't think he knows himself. I'm sitting here wincing because it looks to me like a human being going into a slow crash and burn. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

I don't think a couple of interviews and a couple of podcasts can be regarded. as "every two minutes". They're not responsible for the obsessive way their appearances are treated.

But...but....Galaxy if Charles retired to his garden and constantly had a Alan Titchmarsh and a TV crew gushing over his gladioli every two minutes I think people would be eye rolling his assertion that he wanted to step back and have more privacy.

You can see the full interview on YouTube, mokryna

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oxlCKMlpZw

Perhaps because the press stopped being sympathetic mokryna you don't go for a drink with someone who has just called your future wife "straight outta Compton"