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Newatthis Sun 21-Feb-21 12:15:54

Can someone please enlighten me in letting me know what was wrong in Harry and meghan saying "service is universal"? Surely it is. We also like to help each other and provide a service to each other when we can, that's what I'd like to believe anyway. Isn't this what they meant? There's seems to be a lot of H & M bashing again over this, however, it's all gone quiet over Prince Andrew's alleged sexual relationship with an underage girl. Am I missing something?

lemsip Thu 25-Feb-21 20:43:07

this thread needs to die now it's no longer about the title subjects!

Anniebach Thu 25-Feb-21 20:14:15

Sarah48 I repeated what was said at the inquest,

Sarah48 Thu 25-Feb-21 20:03:36

Ok, I’m off, I remember now that you have an encyclopaedic knowledge of all the Rotal Family’s goings on, including what they were all doing on particular days, and why, including how the felt at the time.

Galaxy Thu 25-Feb-21 19:59:54

Yes we know. That's what i said.

Anniebach Thu 25-Feb-21 19:49:34

Sarah48 I did not say Diana died because she was mentally ill, she died because she and Dodi were playing chase with the
paps, left the Ritz ,where there was a private apartment for them and disregarding advice from bodyguards , to go to Dodi’s apartment, they were followed by the pap who were waiting outside and were driven by a driver who had been drinking.

Anniebach Thu 25-Feb-21 19:44:35

Really Luca you know Charles was in love with someone else , or you believe the many,many programmes which claim he was ?

Same as ‘Camilla got tired of waiting for him so married someone else’

Lucca Thu 25-Feb-21 19:37:01

Whether or not Diana had mental health issues that doesn’t alter the fact that Charles married her when he was in love with someone else and she was clearly besotted with him.

Sarah48 Thu 25-Feb-21 19:30:52

But even if - if - someone considered Diana to have mental health problems, not quite sure what that has to do with her death?

Anniebach Thu 25-Feb-21 19:13:24

Sarah48 yes I read the reports. This isn’t a thread about Diana so not fair I should post facts which were disclosed at the inquest.

Sarah48 Thu 25-Feb-21 18:56:58

Diana was mentally ill. ??? Did you yourself read the inquest report, Anniebach? And who decided to give her that label? In many aspects of her life, she seems to have coped extremely well for someone who - you say - was ‘mentally ill’. Whatever that means, as Charles might say..... Coping with an adulterous husband, two young children, within the confines of a very unusual family setup.

Anniebach Thu 25-Feb-21 18:32:11

Galaxy the inquest into Diana’s death covered many things,
it wasn’t just a case of a drunken driver, there were all the allegations by Al Fayed, it all had to be heard

Galaxy Thu 25-Feb-21 18:27:09

Sorry I dont know what you mean about Diana being mentally ill? She was killed because a drunk driver crashed, I dont understand what you mean.

eazybee Thu 25-Feb-21 18:23:06

Referring back to Prince Philip I believe he did a great deal to reform the Palace machinery, rather as Prince Albert did, cutting through the over -staffing, waste and unnecessary protocol (three footmen to produce a cup of tea) and dragged it into the twentieth century.
Prince Charles was not happy in his marriage but it was his own indecision that caused Camilla to get tired of waiting and marry someone else. He alone seems to have achieved what he wanted, been given a second chance.
As for Andrew, I don't know.

Anniebach Thu 25-Feb-21 18:13:55

Diana was mentally ill, did you not follow the inquest into her death ?

As for Megan, left her husband, moved in with a celebrity chef,
left him when she met Harry.

Galaxy Thu 25-Feb-21 18:09:00

Well I dont think it's a bad aim in life to be fair. The systems that put Charles and Diana (if the stories are true) in that position arent that great in my view. So if that institution is disrupted well the word won't end. As I say I doubt Meghan has the power to disrupt, outsiders dont seem to. Although I suppose you could say Diana did influence some change.

Anniebach Thu 25-Feb-21 17:57:08

So everyone in a life of service must live the happiest of lives .

IF we are to believe !

Galaxy Thu 25-Feb-21 17:52:43

Because I dont know that it looks the happiest of lives, if we are to believe the stories he had to marry a young girl when he loved someone else etc etc. Perhaps those ideas need some disruption. It's the concept Meghan is disrupting some sacred institution ( I personally dont think this is the case and if it is she will likely come off worse) so to me the institution isnt sacred or particularly admirable but I guess that is where we differ.

Anniebach Thu 25-Feb-21 17:44:48

Galaxy why did you name Charles with Andrew ?

Galaxy Thu 25-Feb-21 17:41:55

Sorry anniebach I lost your e.

Galaxy Thu 25-Feb-21 17:41:22

I didnt vote for either of them though Annibach wink

Galaxy Thu 25-Feb-21 17:40:37

I dont frown on divorce. Meghan has moved to America. I dont frown on that either.

Anniebach Thu 25-Feb-21 17:37:26

Charles had an affair, his wife had several affairs, they divorced, good grief is divorce to be frowned upon if it happens to be someone in a life of service.

At the last election we had two party leaders, both married several times.

Ellianne Thu 25-Feb-21 17:25:36

So are we saying that they no longer have to be squeaky clean in their dealings because it won't reflect badly on the RF?

Just interested because only 3 days ago the EU commission decided to add Dominica to the EU list of non-cooperative tax jurisdictions. At exactly the same time M & H made their first Archewell donation to Dominica. Very little has been reported about this, but if the RF had done so I'm sure everyone would be up in arms.
In that sense it does give M & H the freedom to choose, but yes at their own peril. The big machine won't be there to help dig them out.

NellG Thu 25-Feb-21 17:14:10

Well, as they aren't working members of the RF anymore whatever they do wont reflect back on the 'firm', just on them. I hope they have the forbearance to withstand it.

Whereas the dirty dealings and unpleasant shenanigans of the others are at least absorbed by the "system of stability" which are your words, not mine. In the case of Charles and PP anyway - Andrew needs to be held to public account without doubt.

Galaxy Thu 25-Feb-21 17:02:13

But the fallout of a life of service isnt that great either is it. Andrew, Margaret, Charles, none of it is a great advert for a life of service. If being the change you want is less of Prince Philip using the range of hideous phrases he has used and less of prince Andrew's behaviour i dont think that would be a bad thing. You talk as if Meghan had disrupted some great system of stability, other than the Queen and Anne that's not really what it's been.

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