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‘Read all abaht it’ ... the suspect in the murder case. Why is so much being disclosed❓

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Urmstongran Fri 12-Mar-21 07:49:06

His name, age, photograph, details of his two girls and his Ukrainian wife and mother in law are in all the newspapers.

Usually, the only details we would be privy to at this stage (he’s in custody not even charged yet) would be along the lines of ‘a 48y old man from Deal in Kent was arrested last night in connection with the murder of 33y old Sarah Everard who went missing last Wednesday’.

Today I read he attended hospital with a serious head injury and was later released back into custody. Also that he exposed himself 3 days before being arrested at a fast-food restaurant and the 2 officers involved in examining that are under investigation themselves.

So much information. It seems unprecedented. What on earth is going on here? How come lawyers for either the suspect or the Met Police haven’t complained about the press? I find it all very worrying on many levels. Anyone with thoughts on it all?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 12-Mar-21 11:04:25

And don’ t think that the law will change anything.

Remember the Leveson enquiry? Well those recommendations came to nothing didn’t they?

Ilovecheese Fri 12-Mar-21 11:10:42

Is a curfew for women also a nonsense or is that perfectly o.k?

Firecracker123 Fri 12-Mar-21 11:11:27

I don't think so many people buy newspapers now they read them online or catch up with news items on YouTube or if they have TV Licence live on the BBC. I used to love reading the Sunday papers years ago before social media (News of the World, The Sunday People) all the so called scandals and titillations.

Firecracker123 Fri 12-Mar-21 11:14:44

10Ilovecheese

Is a curfew for women also a nonsense or is that perfectly o.k?

There are more violent crimes against men than women.

BlueBelle Fri 12-Mar-21 11:17:27

I m am very concerned with what they have found as they have not identified her yet and yesterday had divers arrive surely that only points to one thing

Galaxy Fri 12-Mar-21 11:19:46

But men are very rarely told where to walk or even how far to walk as I have already seen on this forum today.

suziewoozie Fri 12-Mar-21 12:11:41

Ilovecheese

Is a curfew for women also a nonsense or is that perfectly o.k?

Well you know women, bring it on themselves etc etc

Sarnia Fri 12-Mar-21 13:43:25

The suspect is also being questioned about indecent exposure 4 days previous to Sarah's disappearance. The 2 police officers with him at the time are also being asked about the incident. The report did not say whether the 3 were in uniform but surely something of this nature should have been reported by one or both of these policemen to their senior officers. You wonder if correct procedure has been followed otherwise the suspect may not have been in Sarah's vicinity a few days later.

Urmstongran Fri 12-Mar-21 14:05:05

The Guardian breaking news:
The human remains have been confirmed to be Sarah Everard.

RIP dear girl.

michelleblane Fri 12-Mar-21 14:17:53

I would have thought that a police officer accused of exposing himself in/near a takeaway food outlet would normally result in suspension pending an investigation. Warrant card and fire arms would be surrendered.

suziewoozie Fri 12-Mar-21 14:20:26

michelleblane

I would have thought that a police officer accused of exposing himself in/near a takeaway food outlet would normally result in suspension pending an investigation. Warrant card and fire arms would be surrendered.

I’m guessing that this is why it’s been referred to the police watchdog

Esspee Fri 12-Mar-21 15:45:25

Firecracker123

Green Party Peer Baroness Jones calls for ban on men being out after dark. She's labelling all men as monsters.

I would assume she is calling for this simply as a way of highlighting the ridiculousness of the police telling women to be careful out. It is not the fault of women that men attack them.

GillT57 Fri 12-Mar-21 15:51:19

I agree with you Urmostongran, what have his family got to do with this? They too are innocent parties. My initial thoughts are that this chap has had some massive breakdown when you take into consideration the alleged exposure acts too. No comfort to the family of the victim of course, but tragic all round.

Urmstongran Fri 12-Mar-21 16:05:25

Yes indeed Gill53 we have to acknowledge that two families have been devastated by this heinous crime. I was thinking earlier of the 2 little girls, both junior school age, caught up in all this now. Their world will have been turned upside down. It’s upsetting to think about it all.

Urmstongran Fri 12-Mar-21 16:06:15

Oops!
Have I just added 4 years to your age?
?

lemongrove Fri 12-Mar-21 16:48:34

No you have made Gill four years younger?

lemongrove Fri 12-Mar-21 16:52:09

GillT57

I agree with you Urmostongran, what have his family got to do with this? They too are innocent parties. My initial thoughts are that this chap has had some massive breakdown when you take into consideration the alleged exposure acts too. No comfort to the family of the victim of course, but tragic all round.

That’s what I thought too, this behaviour seems to have come on very quickly and be out of character, according to what little I have read.So many people devastated by the results of course, children, wife, parents sisters, brothers, grandparents and friends too.

suziewoozie Fri 12-Mar-21 16:55:16

Urmstongran

Yes indeed Gill53 we have to acknowledge that two families have been devastated by this heinous crime. I was thinking earlier of the 2 little girls, both junior school age, caught up in all this now. Their world will have been turned upside down. It’s upsetting to think about it all.

Yes indeed - such a nice expression of compassion in a dreadful situation. I keep also thinking about how hard it must be for the parents to have to have your grief such public property.Everything being turned over and exposed. I remember some of the dreadful things the press did to Millie Dowler’s parents - I won’t repeat them on here but they were looking for skeletons in the various family cupboards. And we should be under no illusions, if anything negative came up about this young woman, it would be all over the press in an instant. I just find it so sad when it’s just ordinary people who get caught up in extraordinary events through no fault of their own.

Blossoming Fri 12-Mar-21 16:55:20

BlueBelle

I m am very concerned with what they have found as they have not identified her yet and yesterday had divers arrive surely that only points to one thing

They have now identified the body. It is Sarah Everard. 118 women and girls have been murdered by men in the past year.

Daisend1 Fri 12-Mar-21 17:05:13

Firecracker123
You wonder if he has confessed?
Forensic evidence does not lie.

M0nica Fri 12-Mar-21 18:57:04

Given the very responsible job this policeman had, where mental and security checks would be frequent. I still think he may have had a mental breakdown of some sort.

Galaxy Fri 12-Mar-21 18:59:58

I dont think we should speculate on health etc. People in responsible jobs do bad things.

OnwardandUpward Fri 12-Mar-21 19:02:04

Poor Sarah sad Poor Sarah's family. flowers

BlueBelle Fri 12-Mar-21 19:21:08

That’s what I thought too, this behaviour seems to have come on very quickly lemongrove how do you know this, he might have been doing things for years but never been caught

I still think he may have had a mental breakdown of some sort that sounds like a total whitewash how many people w ho have a breakdown expose themselves and murder someone ?

suziewoozie Fri 12-Mar-21 19:41:50

BlueBelle

*That’s what I thought too, this behaviour seems to have come on very quickly* lemongrove how do you know this, he might have been doing things for years but never been caught

I still think he may have had a mental breakdown of some sort that sounds like a total whitewash how many people w ho have a breakdown expose themselves and murder someone ?

I agree - I don’t however think we should be discussing his mental health However , as it’s been started I’ll just list some of the defences men who murder women use

She told me she likes it rough - it was an accident
She drove me to it because - choose any of the following - she said I was no good in bed/ she was having an affair/ she was going to leave me - and I lost it
I’ve been having mental heath problems, I didn’t know what I was doing. And I’m ever so sorry