harry and megan

Yes trisher exactly like that.

Chestnut I believe that you are correct.
I've been reading a lot about that period, particularly about Wallis Simpson and also the Mitfords.

I think that he (Harry) is as thick as mince, unfortunately.
And of course, due to his huge previledge, he can't see it.
That's why he does so many thoughtless, daft things.
He means well though.

FannyCornforth

Maddy the conspiracy theory to which Lucca was referring was the Diana's death one ie she was murdered (I think!)

I was.

maddyone just as cosying up to Hitler during the last war suggests an unpleasant individual.
I might be wrong, but I don't think the Duke of Windsor 'cosied up' to Hitler during the war did he? A lot of people thought he was a very dynamic, charismatic leader before the war and may have associated with him. It was only later they all saw his true colours.

He didn’t care what the interview did to his family, that’s the thing.The damage it could cause to the RF and the personal hurt he was causing to the Queen ( his grandparents) his Father and his brother.At a time when his grandfather was very ill too ( he could have asked for the interview to be postponed from being broadcast.)
Their own pique and petulance was more important to them.

Maddy the conspiracy theory to which Lucca was referring was the Diana's death one ie she was murdered (I think!)

maddyone you mean ike Harry's mum did to Martin Bashir?

Well maybe you’re right trisher and so I’ll call it complains publicly to a famous interviewer about alleged shortcomings of their family.

Lucca I’m assuming you mean The Duke of Windsor. I don’t think there was a conspiracy myself (but am not well enough informed to be categoric) but I have seen photos of him with Hitler. I was of the impression that The Duke of Windsor and his wife lived much of the time in the Carribean so not that close to Hitler.

At the end of it all, I guess most of us would not feel it appropriate to go on to a television show and make allegations about the behaviour of our nearest and dearest. Whilst the world and his dog are not waiting with baited breath for any revelations I might choose to disclose, I simply would not do that to my family, were there anything of note to disclose. Most people would not, despite any perceived faults.

Inappropriate possibly !. I personally don’t buy that conspiracy theory but maybe I’m naive

Maddyonegiven what happened to one member of Harry's family I think "throw their family under a bus" might be inappropriate. (especially as there are rumours that the accident involved was actually orchestrated by the family and their connections).

The Duke of Windsor appears to have been a rather self centred individual from what we hear about him. A couple of generations down the line we have Harry, who also strikes me as a self centred individual. I feel that any person who gives an interview to a world famous interviewer and proceeds to throw their family under a bus really cannot be a very pleasant individual, just as cosying up to Hitler during the last war suggests an unpleasant individual.

If people want to start a conversation because they want to engage in conversation, there are lessons to be learnt from yesterday when we had a lovely conversation about a beautiful hat somebody made.

I just read the whole thread. The only criticism of posters came from the side who don't like to be disagreed with and think H&M embody the anti-Christ. If you join in a thread criticising people you've never met, just to get people going, expect what comes your way.

When I pointed out how much money they raised, somebody actually questioned the honesty of the people raising the money.

And none of us are getting off the thread. That tactic's getting very obvious, and its not going to work.

It all started honestly I think because some people could not believe another thread had been started saying the same stuff about h and m. The point is that nothing new is likely to be said and (believe me it’s true) while I personally am not a “supporter’. I genuinely think the criticism at times gets nasty.

Understandable, with the criticism, why do you all do it ?

Redhead56

Does it really matter what or who the post is about is about? The O P may be lonely and might just want to engage in conversation.

I don’t think so. OP has not returned to the “conversation”.

Iam64. Why comment on posters ? What do you get from it ?

Your fed up suziewoozie ? So am I , of your constant mocking , why do it ? For applause from your like ?

Anniebach, what do you mean? Why shouldn’t I comment /

Anniebach

Iam64 who don’t you ignore these threads, you read them and criticise posters.

I’m really fed up with those sorts of comments - anyone can read any thread they want and criticise any posts they want. What are you actually trying to say with a post like this?

Iam64 who don’t you ignore these threads, you read them and criticise posters.

Does it really matter what or who the post is about is about? The O P may be lonely and might just want to engage in conversation.

trisher

Namsnanny

Ellianne, I can remember him being introduced as Harry at some event or another, and the host(ess) being quite clear that this was the first of many events that he was to be known by just Harry from now on.

Well that died a quick death didn't it?

I do accept there is no financial worth in him (to employers) without his connection to the RF.

So if I can work this out why didn't he?

All set up to feed the publicity mill from the off.
No publicity is bad publicity say the people in the business of advertising, and they should know.
All part of the H&M band wagon.

So are you saying that he shouldn't have been at a fundraising event or that he shouldn't do any fundraising now because he isn't part of the RF?
Are the RF the only people permitted to fundraise?
Should all the money raised for Covax be sent back? Perhaps with an apology- "Some GNers think this money was raised under false pretences Harry is no longer a member of the RF. Although his dad will be King and his granny is the Queen"

Lucca - no I’ve never said H and M are sacred cows, or saints, or any other nonsense either.
Trisher, thanks for making me smile after catching up on yet another let’s criticise Harry and Meghan thread.

I wonder how those who defend Harry would be more understanding of some who criticise him if they had been
subjected to their private family life made public

trisher

Namsnanny

Ellianne, I can remember him being introduced as Harry at some event or another, and the host(ess) being quite clear that this was the first of many events that he was to be known by just Harry from now on.

Well that died a quick death didn't it?

I do accept there is no financial worth in him (to employers) without his connection to the RF.

So if I can work this out why didn't he?

All set up to feed the publicity mill from the off.
No publicity is bad publicity say the people in the business of advertising, and they should know.
All part of the H&M band wagon.

So are you saying that he shouldn't have been at a fundraising event or that he shouldn't do any fundraising now because he isn't part of the RF?
Are the RF the only people permitted to fundraise?
Should all the money raised for Covax be sent back? Perhaps with an apology- "Some GNers think this money was raised under false pretences Harry is no longer a member of the RF. Although his dad will be King and his granny is the Queen"

No sorry trisher I must have mislead you.

My comment has nothing to do with any fund raising event, or the amount of money raised, or who or where it is spent!

I'm merely giving examples of the way he chooses to present himself to the press.
With shoes without shoes (look at me I'm at one with the environment).
With title, without title, (look at me, I'm nice like you, not privileged like the RF, Oh hang on, I make more money if I have a title!! No problem I'll shout it from the rafters then).

I'm reminding people of how he is using the press to further his ambitions.

Anything to play to the crowd. To get attention.

Which is the opposite of his original statements, surely?

And talking of 'events'. Surely they are as useful to the celebs photographed going to them, as the money raised is for the cause?

Quid pro quo.

All I am suggesting is he that he knows how to play the game.